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To: GBA
And don't for get the famous case of Kitty Genovese, who was stabbed to death in an attack that lasted over a half an hour while 38 people listened, but no one called for help until 20 minutes after she died. The police arrived 2 minutes later.

I remember reading that when someone actually went to go interview those people, most of them thought that with so many people around, someone must have already called the police. So it wasn't inhumanity, it was buck-passing.

If you were going to be consistent, you'd have to oppose eating any mammals. Another argument I really don't get is the "it violates trust" argument. If dogs in general truested humans in general, what good would guard dogs be?

148 posted on 06/30/2002 11:58:50 AM PDT by A.J.Armitage
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To: A.J.Armitage
There is certainly some truth to what you say about consistency with regard to eating mammals. I'd like to believe that intelligence plays a factor in my own culinary choices. To me, a pig's eyes are very human-like and that always freaks me out. Horses are a lot like dogs in their symbiotic relationship with humans. However, cows don't seem to have the brains to stay off of my grill. And deer don't seem to have the brains to stay out of my garden. I admit that there is some contradiction there. I'm still working on the whole contemplated life idea, so thanks for giving me something more to think about! I'm having fish for supper, though. ;)

As to Kitty Genovese, social psychologists suggest that "diffusion of responsibility" could play a part, that is, each person believed that someone else was going to help: excatly as you say. There are many, many factors that influence a person's decision to help someone, such as perceived need, the belief that they can help and are in a position to do so, the belief that they'll be held accountable, and even such factors as temperature and weather play a part.

157 posted on 06/30/2002 1:02:14 PM PDT by GBA
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To: A.J.Armitage
Another argument I really don't get is the "it violates trust" argument. If dogs in general truested humans in general, what good would guard dogs be?

Well you could have asked me, since I was the one using that argument.

Dogs in general do trust and serve people in general. "Guard dog" is a specialty that builds on the dog's natural tendencies to protect his pack, his family, is master. He will defend that master to his death without question... Are you telling me you don't recognize the responsibility that master has to treat that devotion with respect and returned loyalty? That is the trust, that is the contract.

161 posted on 06/30/2002 1:13:47 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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