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Blair's aides denounce US 'blundering' in Afghan war
The Sunday Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 06/30/2002 | Christina Lamb

Posted on 06/29/2002 4:53:00 PM PDT by Pokey78

Senior officials in the Prime Minister's office have launched an astonishing attack on America's handling of the hunt for Osama bin Laden and al-Qa'eda fugitives.

They have told The Telegraph that troops carrying out house-to-house searches in the remote tribal areas of Pakistan along the Afghanistan border were "blundering" with a "march-in-shooting" approach.

The US action was "backfiring", increasing support for terrorism and making it harder for bin Laden and his henchmen to be caught.

"The Americans think they and the Pakistanis can just march in shooting", said an official closely involved in the direction of the war.

"They don't understand the sensitivities. We have years of experience in the tribal areas and we know using force will just backfire and increase sympathy for al-Qa'eda."

The comments will put further strain on Anglo-US relations after a week of tensions over the Middle East policy and the introduction of steel tariffs.

The scale of the divide between London and Washington was made plain by scathing comments about the Bush administration by one British minister involved in negotiations over the steel tariffs.

"You have to remember that this is a rather unpleasant administration," the minister told The Telegraph yesterday. "The fact there has been a full-blooded attempt to forge a relationship with it hasn't changed its fundamental nature - protectionist and self-interested."

A spokesman for US Central Command angrily rejected the criticism. Col Rick Thomas said: "Our entire approach to removing the Taliban from power and eliminating the al-Qa'eda threat has been sensitive to regional issues.

"We have liaison teams co-ordinating with the Pakistani military but have not been directly involved in any operations in that area."

Although officially part of Pakistan, the tribal areas have governed themselves since British colonial times.

They live by a strict code of honour, attacking and kidnapping outsiders who stray into their mountain valleys.

Federal forces carry no mandate beyond the main highways and disputes with the outside have traditionally been resolved through negotiation between political agents and their chiefs, usually involving large amounts of money.

Pakistan and the people of the tribal areas, who are Pathans like the Taliban, with little sympathy for the war on terrorism, refused to allow the search for al-Qa'eda to move there.

The Pentagon claims that at least 1,000 al-Qa'eda crossed into the tribal areas late last year, possibly including bin Laden, and are now regrouping.

After pressure from Washington, Pakistan agreed to deploy 12,000 troops in April, backed by US Green Berets, CIA paramilitaries and British special forces.

Tribal leaders were furious. "This is not how things work here", said Arsallah Hoti, a leading member of the powerful Yusufzai tribe.

"They have been raiding our villages with less than an hour's notice and even burst in on a wedding because they heard the traditional firing of Kalashnikovs and assumed it was al-Qa'eda."

Mr Hoti visited London last week and expressed his concerns to an adviser to Tony Blair. "I think people who were ambivalent to al-Qa'eda in the tribal areas are now supporting them" he said.

"A lot more could have been achieved through the old colonial way of negotiations rather than the American way of bombing and killing. The British understand that."

Although Mr Blair and Mr Bush have presented the war on terror as a united stand, the argument over how to proceed in the tribal areas is the latest in a series of clashes between the British and American forces on the ground.

The biggest rift came when the Royal Marines launched Operation Condor without telling US commanders. Operation Condor failed to capture any al-Qa'eda and Brigadier Roger Lane, the British commander, was removed from his post.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: blair; britain; southasialist; uk
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1 posted on 06/29/2002 4:53:00 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
Hmmm, maybe their way failed.

"The Americans think they and the Pakistanis can just march in shooting"

Why no criticism of Pakis misunderstanding their own people?

2 posted on 06/29/2002 4:56:29 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Pokey78
Well, time to Bomb London ! LOL!
3 posted on 06/29/2002 4:57:38 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: Pokey78
The British have a "great" history in Afganistan. As if they never lost a war there and could tell us how its done. Right!!!
4 posted on 06/29/2002 5:01:19 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Pokey78
They live by a strict code of honour, attacking and kidnapping outsiders who stray into their mountain valleys.

Yup, that's real honorable.
5 posted on 06/29/2002 5:01:54 PM PDT by BJClinton
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To: Pokey78
"A lot more could have been achieved through the old colonial way of negotiations rather than the American way of bombing and killing. The British understand that."

Oh yeah, history tells us how well THAT worked ;o)

6 posted on 06/29/2002 5:03:00 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Pokey78
"The Americans think they and the Pakistanis can just march in shooting",

Really? We have? GOOD!

And "Officials" said this"? Official Janitor for PM Blair? Who?

7 posted on 06/29/2002 5:05:47 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: McGavin999
LOL! Thats why they are such a Superpower with a great track record of victories!
8 posted on 06/29/2002 5:06:41 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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Split with US on anti-terror war denied by No10

Downing Street has played down reports that Number 10 officials have attacked the United States' anti-terror campaign in Afghanistan.

Tony Blair's senior aides have reportedly hit out at the way US forces have tried to hunt down al-Qaida terrorists.

But a Number 10 spokesman said they don't recognise any of the quotes.

Officials accused US troops of "blundering" about during house-to-house searches for Islamic fighters, according to The Sunday Telegraph.

"The Americans think they and the Pakistanis can just march in shooting," one told the paper.

Americans did not understand the "sensitivities" involved in such tribal areas, where Britain has experience of operating, they said.

"Using force will just backfire and increase sympathy for al Qaida," the source added.

The Downing Street spokesman said: "Any suggestion of any split between us and the US in the fight against terrorism is completely wrong.

"The whole campaign in Afghanistan has been characterised by us standing together. That is not going to change."

9 posted on 06/29/2002 5:19:32 PM PDT by grimalkin
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To: Pokey78
Brilliant Tony Blair could learn some lessons from old dumb GW about how to keep one's troops in line. If Blair is smart and decisive enough to sack the SOB who leaked to the Telegraph then I'll have some new found respect for him.
10 posted on 06/29/2002 5:22:29 PM PDT by SBprone
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Well, to be fair we have to acknowledge that it's only the political leftests we're talking about here. The Brits are one of the truest friends the US has. Unless something mighty big has happened over the years, they're a tough, sensible, stoic people I'm grateful to have on our side. The political elite, however, SUCK!
11 posted on 06/29/2002 5:24:39 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999
I got brothers over there. Sure would hate to have to see us nuke them. Dang.
12 posted on 06/29/2002 5:33:09 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: McGavin999
Well, to be fair we have to acknowledge that it's only the political leftests we're talking about here.

You are right. They have the same "problems" as we have with our State Department. Stocked with leftists who will do anything to keep their agenda moving. When they are marginalized, they wail, leak intel, obstruct -- the usual mischief.

13 posted on 06/29/2002 5:33:43 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
LOL, I doubt we'll have to do that. Seriously though, I don't envy them at all. They have so many Islamists in their midst as a result of the utopians who were running their government that it's GOT to be pretty scary for the average Brit.
14 posted on 06/29/2002 5:39:04 PM PDT by McGavin999
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"... it's only the political leftests we're talking about here."

Well, those "political leftists" are getting on my last nerve!

".. they're a tough, sensible, stoic people I'm grateful to have on our side."

You are right about that. I'm grateful they are with us, as well.

" The political elite, however, SUCK!"

And, you are right about that,too!;o)

15 posted on 06/29/2002 5:40:44 PM PDT by dixiechick2000
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To: Pokey78
They have told The Telegraph that troops carrying out house-to-house searches in the remote tribal areas of Pakistan along the Afghanistan border were "blundering" with a "march-in-shooting" approach.

Hey, Tony, this ain't no frikkin' "snipe hunt" or a "condor catch", its an old fashioned Texas style snake round up (Anaconda). Quit yer whinin', git some gonads and pass the ammo.

16 posted on 06/29/2002 5:43:29 PM PDT by TADSLOS
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To: McGavin999
Yes, and the patronizing British yearning for "the old colonial way" is sure to make many points with the Paks and Afghans.
17 posted on 06/29/2002 5:57:18 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Pokey78
"The Americans think they and the Pakistanis can just march in shooting", said an official closely involved in the direction of the war.

"They don't understand the sensitivities. We have years of experience in the tribal areas and we know using force will just backfire and increase sympathy for al-Qa'eda."

Oh, what a great idea! Yes, let's work on being more "sensitive". I'm sure that would cause the rural Pak Muslims to absolutely flock to our side. They'll be falling all over each other trying to turn in Al Qaeda. Now why didn't we think of that?

{/sarcasm}

Honest to goodness, are the leftist Brits really that stupid? The one clear, inconvertible lesson of this entire episode has been that Muslims respect only one thing - strength.

18 posted on 06/29/2002 6:02:46 PM PDT by Joe Bonforte
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To: Pokey78
I agree with the other posts. The Brits have such a great history in regards to that region. As a matter of fact, if we go back to the years of Imperial rule in that region; it could explain some of the mess we are in today. Tony Blair can say all he wants, but in the end he has to be a party man. The Labour Commies hate America and our fight against these terrorists.
19 posted on 06/29/2002 6:05:05 PM PDT by MoJo2001
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To: Pokey78
Back during WWII 'Monty' was a whiner too.
20 posted on 06/29/2002 6:10:43 PM PDT by fella
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