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To: JMJ333
I'll grant you that. However, would you agree that, due to the evidence found in the Federalist papers, the Founders did have God, and Christian moral principles in mind when they formulated the Constitution?

Would you also agree that this country has gone into a downhill slide since the Socialists have made more and further progress in removing God (and Christian moral principles) from our daily interaction with government? Can you see the connection between the events of the last 60 or so years and the removal of God from government?

63 posted on 06/30/2002 6:56:13 AM PDT by wcbtinman
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To: wcbtinman
Would you also agree that this country has gone into a downhill slide since the Socialists have made more and further progress in removing God (and Christian moral principles) from our daily interaction with government?

Yes.

Can you see the connection between the events of the last 60 or so years and the removal of God from government?

No.

65 posted on 06/30/2002 7:09:16 AM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: wcbtinman
I'll grant you that. However, would you agree that, due to the evidence found in the Federalist papers, the Founders did have God, and Christian moral principles in mind when they formulated the Constitution?

Absolutely, I'd agree to that. There is no doubt the founders were men of God. My only point is that I wish they had included a bit more if their religious beliefs into the constitution because no one reads or looks to the federalist papers [except us junkies] when deciding what the founders meant. Only the constitution counts. I admire it greatly, but there is nothing contained within that outlines or guarantees wisdom in moral issues.

Would you also agree that this country has gone into a downhill slide since the Socialists have made more and further progress in removing God (and Christian moral principles) from our daily interaction with government? Can you see the connection between the events of the last 60 or so years and the removal of God from government?

I would. And I think if we had direct evidence outlined we could point to it and tell em' to shut their traps--but their isn't. The godless know this and continue to appeal to the Supreme court because they know they have a good chance of getting their "interpretation" of what the constitution should mean. They, as you point out, have been very successful at getting their way.

Which brings me back to my original question--Why did the constitutional system break down so quickly? Why did the checks and balance system become basically mute with the Supreme court becoming virtually unchecked in power?

I still say it is the issue of sovereignty. =)

67 posted on 06/30/2002 7:34:19 AM PDT by JMJ333
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