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To: Kevin Curry
For the sake of argument let's accept your contention that the 2d treatise is based on a total rejection and hatred of religion, that it is a celebration of godlessness and material self-indulgence; that it captures the worldview of atheists who pride themselves on bowing to no authority but their own greedy selves. Perhaps you are wrong in your contention and it really speaks more to your own craven materialism than it does to religion. But for the sake of argument let's grant you your queer and twisted contention.

I made no contention that it is a "Godless" document that totally rejects and hates religion. It rejects traditional christian views of government. Meaning it totally rejects the idea that there are any God-instituted governmental institutions that have a "right to rule." It totally rejects that idea in favor of government being an agreement between the citizenry to defend life, liberty and property. It has no higher calling than that. You are, as usual, taking a reasonable argument and trying to turn it into something bizarre, twisted and completely unrelated to what I said. But what can we expect from you? You have shown that you lack the ability to understand something as basic as the difference between principled opposition to government prohibition of vice and a desire to legalize it simply so one can use it.

How odd that it is the religious believers in your god-hating governmental scheme who are the guarantors of your indulgence and freedom under it.

That's funny, the majority of religious people I know place little value on the first 5 amendments. They have little love for free speech, religion, assembly, right to keep and bear arms without restriction, right to be secure in one's home and they tend to feel that a full trial by jury is a Godless sympathy with the "criminal."

The lesson history teaches about atheist societies is that they mare mass-murdering meat grinders and soffocating nanny states unparalleled in their horror by any other governments that have ever existed.

There are no atheistic societies. An atheistic society would require a population that is overwhelmingly dominated by atheists. Even the Soviet Union and NAZI Germany were religious nations. The majority of Russians and Germans were Christians and the majority of non-Russians in the USSR were Muslims. Evil is evil. This country was no better than the Soviet Union from 1789-1865. Slavery as an institution was no different from the Gulag archapelago and the Soviet work camps outside the Gulag.

Two-hundred million were beaten, shot, starved, gassed, hanged, eviscerated, and burned in the 20th Century alone in the name of atheism.

Bull$hit. They were executed in the name of a "higher ideal." The classless society, the pure aryan Europe/World, turning Cambodia to an agrarian utopia, etc. Even the US, a "Christian nation," had concentration camps during WWII.

You couldn't govern an ant farm with your philosophy, let alone thrive in a society made up only of sneering atheists such as yourself. In a society filled with such serpents you would be eating each other tail first as rapidly as you could gobble down the scales.

Because I am different than you, I'm an Atheist now? Well then we atheists out number you greatly. We number 75% of the population. Every Jew, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Shinto, Sihk, Deist (which I am) and Wiccan is an atheist. You represent the face of the Christianity that I rejected for a doctrine of a God that is actually a rational being.

The only theocratic societies that have existed have stagnated. They hate technology and any sort of science that doesn't have some religious statement after every sentence in a lab write up. The computer you are using would never have been created in the theocracy you lust for. The Physics of it would be millennia too advanced for the type of peabrain idiotic religionists that tried to destroy Galileo and Copernicus for their theories. That mentality is the end result of religion. It is impossible to have freedom of inquiry and religion coexist. Freedom of inquiry always makes the religious nutcases fearful that their precious little belief system might be questioned let alone challenged...

But only after you had murdered all the religious believers.

If I murder anyone it will be in self-defense or in defense of another's life. If peaceful Christians who have done me no harm are being rounded up I'll get my gun and murder the people doing the rounding up. No one has the right to initiate force.

You freeload on our benevolence.

If that be the case you freeload on the scientific advancements such as vaccinations, medicine, consumer electronics, telecom infrastructure, modern military armaments, energy infrastructure and more that non-Christians made availible and have continued to maintain to this very day. Modern computers are not the work of Christians. There are more pagans in IT than Christians.

101 posted on 06/30/2002 4:54:41 PM PDT by dheretic
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To: dheretic
That's funny, the majority of religious people I know place little value on the first 5 amendments. They have little love for free speech, religion, assembly, right to keep and bear arms without restriction, right to be secure in one's home and they tend to feel that a full trial by jury is a Godless sympathy with the "criminal."

Are you serious?

102 posted on 06/30/2002 4:58:28 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: dheretic
The big lie/HATE...fraud-hoax-FREEZE/squeeze---

Originally the word liberal meant social conservatives who advocated growth and progress---THIS IS SCIENCE...mostly technological(knowledge being absolute/unchanging)based on law--reality--UNDER GOD...the nature of GOD/man/govt. does not change. These were the Classical liberals...founding fathers-PRINCIPLES---stable/SANE scientific reality/society---industrial progress...moral/social character-values GROWTH!

Then came the post-modern age of switch-flip-spin-DEFORMITY-cancer...Atheist secular materialists through ATHEISM/evolution CHANGED-REMOVED the foundations...demolished the wall(separation of state/religion)--trampled the TRUTH-GOD...built a satanic temple over them---made these absolutes subordinate--relative and calling all the residuals---technology/science === evolution to substantiate/justify their efforts--claims...social engineering--PC--atheism...anti-God/Truth RELIGION--crusade/WAR--INTOLERANCE/TYRANNY against God--man--society!!

Liberals/Evolution BELIEVE they are the conservatives--guardians too...

the shield between state and religion(evolution/atheism) is gone---this is chernobyl---radiation poisoning---NUCLEAR SOCIAL ANTARTICA/AMERICA!!

Hypnotism--witchcraft ideology--politics--religion--BRAINWASHING--superstition--BIAS---EVOLUTION/ATHEISM is a Hate CRIME

ps...Atheism/evolutionism is the essence of liberalism/socialism---THIS IS UNNATURAL SCIENCE---State secular MONOPOLY religion forbidding the freedom of speech/religion of everything except atheism!

103 posted on 06/30/2002 5:00:24 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: dheretic
I just read your profile page and noted your list of "favorite" bands. You would be better off if you just hot-injected a vial of hydroflouric acid into both ears.

No wonder your thoughts are so scrambled. You are what you mentally devour.

105 posted on 06/30/2002 5:01:40 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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