[Illbay]

It has nothing to do with WHO should be a GOP supporter--IMO anyone who is in the Dem camp is equal-opportunity stupid, regardless of race, creed or lobotomy-status.

It has to do with REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS. You're just as likely to get a significant Jewish vote for the GOP--unless you're talking a RINO like this guy--as you are a significant black vote.

Both demographics are DEEPLY ENTRENCHED in their support for the Dems. I even had one guy here on FR, from New York, crowing about how "the Jewish under-30 vote went ALMOST 45% for Bush" (and I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that this is true).

I've used examples in my own experience, people I went to school with and have known for years, businesspeople, with families and mortgages, etc. But their parents voted for Dems and THEY will vote for Dems and their tongues will blacken and fall out before that's going to change.

[Torie]

No, the Jewish vote is much more permeable than the African American vote. I met at a financial conference this weekend a middle class black that lived in Southfield, had considerable wealth, was very affable, his son was a lawyer, but he thought Coleman Young was a good mayor of Detroit and was done in by a lack of funding. I found that to be interesting information.

[Nonstatist]

But their parents voted for Dems and THEY will vote for Dems

You just dont get it, do you? Jewish Dems provide about half the soft money coming from individuals to the Democrat Party. If you peel off about half of the "significant" Jewish donors (there are about half a million in this country), then youve delivered quite a blow to the chops to Democrap fundraising. Thus all the angst over this rift among Party leaders.

Thats the real reason the Pubs would not write off the "Jewish" vote, or treat it as insignificantly as you do.

[Bogey78O]

....except that demographics do shift.

I'm glad Republicans don't write off the South like they did 40 years ago.

[Double Tap]

I've used examples in my own experience, people I went to school with and have known for years, businesspeople, with families and mortgages, etc. But their parents voted for Dems and THEY will vote for Dems and their tongues will blacken and fall out before that's going to change.

That is the truth. The same with most African-Americans. They may have conservative social or economic values, but seem to go on auto-pilot when elections come around.