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To: Stavka2
And yet England sells weapons to countries, and America for that matter, that are enemies of Russia...Saudi Arabia being one of them, Turkey another....

These countries are hardly in the same league as China and North Korea.

why not show us poor Russians how it should be done and lead by example...

Because we know from bitter experience that Russia will just continue to flout moral and legal norms for its own advantage, regardless of anything we do.

England is America's lapdog.

I can't disagree with you here. But the main reason for this is the cold war and your country's behaviour during that period.

Without the US, England would be a second rate European power...as is, the Falklands almost broke England's back...pretty far drop from Empire to second rate power.

Yes, a second rate European power with the fourth largest economy in the world and the third largest up until last year. The Falklands conflict hardly broke England's back, since it was handled entirely by the professional armed forces. Russia would have just sent a few thousand untrained conscripts to be slaughtered.

As for the British Empire, good riddance to it, hopefully Russia will learn the high human cost of maintaining an empire before its too late. But knowing you nationalistic Russians and the low value you put on human life, I sincerely doubt it.

26 posted on 07/01/2002 10:26:31 AM PDT by David Hunter
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To: David Hunter
Yup, you are right, China and N. Korea do not support Al Quida, Taliban, the islamic insurgency in Egypt, Israel, Kosovo, Bosnia, Pakistan, Ibo Saif, and dozens upon dozens of terror training camps/madrass....thank you for pointing out the truth of my argument.

Ah, so by your moral logic, well, we think we can't trust you so we'll continue to do bad things our selves, instead of setting the moral example and then bitching....so, with your hands in the cookie jar and supporting known terrorist nations, soon to be on the axis of evil, while yourselves providing vast areas for recruitment and training of Islamics, you bitch at us? Very English of you....kinda why you lost that old empire feeling.

As for England's status...I've got news for you, 12 years ago, the Cold War ended...why has England become even more of a client state of America...but for you it's a choice between the US client state or the EU client state...I'd go with the US. England seems to have been made for servitude.

Read up on the Falklands, the Royal Navy scrambled almost all its resources and even that was almost not enough. If the US hadn't been continually selling you its satellite resources you might not have won with your "Royal" army. Now full of transgenders and janies in the front ranks....heard the EU was going to make you have invalids too.....that should be a hoot. But soon enough you'll all be Janisaries for the upcoming Islamic rulers of the Island.

27 posted on 07/01/2002 1:25:05 PM PDT by Stavka2
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