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Kids Being Left Behind At Toy Store
the denver channel ^ | today | some dude

Posted on 06/28/2002 5:21:59 AM PDT by Rodney King

Kids Being Left Behind At Toy Store Timbuk Toys Managers Say Parents Dropping Off Kids To Run Errands Posted: 11:40 a.m. MDT June 27, 2002 Updated: 1:04 p.m. MDT June 27, 2002

DENVER -- Managers at Timbuk Toys wish some parents would just get a baby sitter.

Once or twice a week, employees come across children who have been left at the store, sometimes for hours at a time, while their parents run other errands. They get no warning and the kids aren't supervised.

"Sometimes we don't even know that they're here," store manager Sylvia Horton said Wednesday. "There could be a fire and we all run out and leave a child, or they could leave and try to cross the busy street corner."

The problem at the store on Colorado Boulevard has gotten so bad that Horton has been forced to call police.

"It's extremely dangerous," said Sgt. Michael Anderson. "It leaves an opportunity for kids to fall into the hands of ... sexual predators easily."

Employees of Timbuk Toys approach children they think may be alone and ask for a parent. Horton said the kids will often tell them that the parents have gone shopping at a nearby King Soopers grocery store.

"We had one little girl who was left for a long time and we walked her over to King Soopers to find her mom," said Horton. "Her mom took her home and then called the store and apologized."

Sgt. Brad Lenderink, who oversees the Denver police child abuse unit, said that if the police are called there is a chance that the child will be placed in a family crisis shelter. The parents will be asked to come to the shelter to meet with Human Services the next day.

"The child could very well have to spend the night in a shelter," he said.

Parents could also be charged with wrongs to minors or misdemeanor child abuse, both of which carry possible jail time, fines, court appearances and involvement with Social Services.

Copyright 2002 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: kids; parents
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It would be nice if they told us how old the kids are. Are they 4 or 12? If they are 12, then I don't think it's a big deal.
1 posted on 06/28/2002 5:21:59 AM PDT by Rodney King
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"Dr. Laura Told You So" Bump.
2 posted on 06/28/2002 5:30:02 AM PDT by Illbay
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It is a big deal. It is basically getting babysitting for free by dumping your kids in an area where the doors are open. I dont really trust CPS, but they should be called in these situations.

A friend of mine owns a sportscard store that his wife works at part-time and a woman dumped her 3 kids there for nearly 6 hours. No money, and the two youngest didnt even have any intrest in the products there. But they were instructed to stay in the store. Incidentally, this store makes some of my childhood bedrooms look absolutely huge, as it is a suite in a converted hotel wing. Also the kids hadnt eaten, so this lady I know, being a good Christian, had to feed them. She stayed at the store 15 minutes after closing then finally called the local police. As the officer was getting ready to make a decision as to what to do about the situation, 'mommy' pulled up, and started getting pissy with both of them. My friend said that she should be paid for the baby sitting, as well as for the food her kids ate. The cop said pay up or go to jail. She paid. Jail might have taught her a lesson tho...JFK

3 posted on 06/28/2002 5:31:16 AM PDT by BADROTOFINGER
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If they are 12, then I don't think it's a big deal.

You're kidding, right? Do you have kids? They are never really "safe" until they're grown up and out (and sometimes not even then).

A twelve-year-old would be prime pickin's for the sorts of sick freaks who prey upon the Elizabeth Smarts of the world.

4 posted on 06/28/2002 5:31:20 AM PDT by Illbay
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When I was 12 and we went to the mall, I was allowed to go to toy stores on my own, while my parents went to whatever stores they went to. When I was 12, I was allowed to walk in to town by myself and go to stores.

If there is a big store that a kid could easily, and wants to, spend a hour in, then I don't think it's bad if the mother says "I'll meet you back here in an hour".

5 posted on 06/28/2002 5:33:48 AM PDT by Rodney King
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This is totally irresponsible. Some people really shouldn't have kids.
6 posted on 06/28/2002 5:34:54 AM PDT by Destructor
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I could see letting a child who has proven trustworthy shop in a very low crime area. Heck I remember trotting from my house over to the drugstore at the nearby strip mall to buy comic books and Cheetos many a time when I was 10 years old. But she at least ought to give the kid some kind of identification to carry in case of emergency.
7 posted on 06/28/2002 5:39:32 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Illbay
What you said!
8 posted on 06/28/2002 5:41:18 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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Right, I am not defending the people here at all. I simply said that I would like more info. If a kid was 12 and was simply allowed to go to the store on his own while the mother bought groceries, then that woudln't bother me.
9 posted on 06/28/2002 5:46:48 AM PDT by Rodney King
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When I was 12 there were no malls and Walmarts were smaller than todays supermarkets. Letting us kids run free downtown was not a problem as any adult was more likely to help us than to harm us. In most states the age at which a child needs no supervision is usually 13 or 14.
One time at the local mall (and we live in Smallville) I had taken my 12 year old son to the restroom as he was not permitted to go alone. After exiting the restroom a nearby pay phone rang and rang so I decided to pick it up. On the line was a man who said he had seen my son and I in the restroom and would like to have sex with the both of us. I hung up immediatly but then realized that the man who called had to be somewhere nearby watching. I found a security guard and told him of the situation and he informed me that this happened all the time but not to worry as he knew of no times that the caller had acted on his perversions. What a comforting thought.
Although when I was a child this kind of thing seldom happened, today it is all to common.
11 posted on 06/28/2002 6:02:33 AM PDT by Gaston
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When I was 12 and we went to the mall,...

H*ll, when I was TEN, I left the house in the morning, and my mom didn't see me again until suppertime. I even took a sack lunch with me.

That was then and, sadly, this is now. These days kids aren't safe, period. Not even in their own neighborhoods.

But look at this from another angle: These parents who just dump their kids in the toy store as free babysitting are likely not very responsible parents to begin with. And their kids probably reflect that.

So what happens when a kid gets into some sort of predicament--he pulls over a toy display, say, or even tries to leave the store with an "action figure" tucked in his jacket.

Where's the parent? What does the store clerk--usually a clueless twenty-something himself--do in that situation?

This is just multiple levels of irresponsible behavior depicted here, the same sort of thing in microcosm that bedevils our society in general.

People eschew responsibility, and they expect "someone else" to pick up the slack. Is it any wonder the Democrats continue to do quite well with their promises that "someone else" is going to pick up the tab for all you do?

12 posted on 06/28/2002 6:17:07 AM PDT by Illbay
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It was a common practice in this city ---parents would drop off kids to play in stores until one child sex offender went into a local store and took a little 5 year old girl and brutally murdered her. Now fewer parents are using stores as free babysitters.
13 posted on 06/28/2002 6:27:44 AM PDT by FITZ
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Left Behind At Toy Store

Sounds like the title of a new Tribulation novel. Plot line could be some sort of post-Rapture "Home Alone" episode.

14 posted on 06/28/2002 6:31:42 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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I used to work at a mall. Believe me, no-one who loves their kids leaves them unattended at a store. No-one.
15 posted on 06/28/2002 6:33:57 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Illbay
Yeah, you guys are right.
16 posted on 06/28/2002 6:50:57 AM PDT by Rodney King
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When I was 12, I walking downtown by myself. But I wouldn't walk downtown today by myself.
17 posted on 06/28/2002 6:53:37 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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Wasn't that what happened to John Walsh's son, Adam? Wasn't he left in a toy store while mommy met her lover at the mall?
18 posted on 06/28/2002 6:53:50 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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Once again, please, I am not defending this practice. Adam Walsh was much younger then the hypothetical twelve year old we are talking about.
19 posted on 06/28/2002 6:55:16 AM PDT by Rodney King
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H*ll, when I was TEN, I left the house in the morning, and my mom didn't see me again until suppertime..

Maybe that's why you are so grouchy today! (jes funnin' ya...don' get ina hissy fit!) :-))

20 posted on 06/28/2002 6:56:30 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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