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Effort to Arm Pilots Moves Forward Over Administration Objections
Associated Press | Jun 26, 2002 | Jonathan D. Salant

Posted on 06/26/2002 1:32:31 PM PDT by freeperfromnj

WASHINGTON (AP) - Ignoring Bush administration objections, the House Transportation Committee voted Wednesday to allow more than 1,000 pilots to carry guns for a two-year trial.

Committee chairman Don Young, R-Alaska, said the bill could come up before the full House for a vote the week lawmakers return from their July 4 recess. The legislation approved by voice vote would allow up to 1,400 pilots - 2 percent of the work force - to volunteer to undergo training and obtain permission to carry guns on board planes they are piloting. After two years, the Transportation Security Administration would decide whether to end the program, continue it or expand it.

"Nothing else can provide the deterrence of an armed pilot protecting what otherwise would be a defenseless flight deck," said aviation subcommittee chairman John Mica, R-Fla.

Backed by pilots' unions, bipartisan groups of lawmakers in both houses have moved to overturn the administration's decision to keep guns out of airplane cockpits.

"I have listened to pilots," Young said. "They truly believe that if the pilots were armed on 9/11, the hijackings never would have happened."

In the Senate, the task has been made more difficult by the opposition of Senate Commerce Committee chairman Ernest Hollings, D-S.C., whose panel has jurisdiction over the issue. But proponents say they will try to bypass the committee and offer the provision as an amendment to another bill.

The Association of Flight Attendants objected to the bill, saying it does not protect passengers and crew members in the cabin.

"Giving guns to pilots without specific cabin defense requirements for airlines could be deadly for flight attendants and passengers," union president Patricia Friend said. "It also does nothing to help flight attendants thwart a threat to the cockpit, which must come from a hijacker in the cabin."

Pilots and flight attendants were on the same side of another issue Wednesday. American Airlines employees met with lawmakers to call for streamlined airport screening for flight crews.

They called for flight crews to be issued tamperproof identification cards after undergoing background checks. With the cards, they could enter separate lines at checkpoints where they would not be subject to the extensive screening that many pilots and flight attendants now must go through.

American Airlines executives sent a letter to Transportation Security Administration head John Magaw, requesting that he set up the program.


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1 posted on 06/26/2002 1:32:31 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: freeperfromnj
HA-HA!

Take that Tom Ridge... you bloated tick.

I remember Ridge's objecting to people in travel and tourism carrying gun's because: "Where will it stop?"

Oh MY! I sincerely hope Ridge is right and this is a slippery slope!

2 posted on 06/26/2002 1:38:56 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: Jhoffa_
Committee chairman Don Young, R-Alaska

Alaska appears to be well-represented.

3 posted on 06/26/2002 1:47:42 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: *bang_list
Ping.
4 posted on 06/26/2002 2:56:48 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: sneakypete; MJY1288; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Highly recommend movie rental Enemy at the Gates, story of the seige of Stalingrad in WWII by the Germans, and the sharpshooter who turned the tide for the Russians.
5 posted on 06/26/2002 3:05:47 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: freeperfromnj
It is to bad we don't have congresscritters who respect the Constitution because there is no authority for the Federal Government to dictate airline policy on arming pilots.
6 posted on 06/26/2002 3:12:13 PM PDT by Fish out of Water
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To: freeperfromnj
Wouldn't it be wonderful if this legislation passed and something like 70% of pilots volunteered?
7 posted on 06/26/2002 3:17:25 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: freeperfromnj
They called for flight crews to be issued tamperproof identification cards after undergoing background checks. With the cards, they could enter separate lines at checkpoints where they would not be subject to the extensive screening that many pilots and flight attendants now must go through.

No! Do NOT do this! If the public has to go through this crap,so should every SOB who wants to fly. This is ESPECIALLY true for people who are system "insiders" and public officials of all classes. The only hope of getting this crap kicked is to make damn sure the elite have to suffer along with everybody else.

8 posted on 06/26/2002 4:01:45 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: patriciaruth
Good movie with a stupid ending. I expected a tumbleweed to blow by during the final showdown.
ARM ALL THE PILOTS!!
9 posted on 06/26/2002 6:03:59 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: Jhoffa_
....you bloated tick.

LMAO.

10 posted on 06/26/2002 6:05:58 PM PDT by AAABEST
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