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Don't Break Up INS, Ridge Says
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Posted on 06/26/2002 9:53:54 AM PDT by RCW2001

Don't Break Up INS, Ridge Says
Wed Jun 26,11:26 AM ET

By JESSE J. HOLLAND, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Congress should not split up the Immigration and Naturalization Service when including the embattled agency in a new Homeland Security Department, the Bush administration said Wednesday.

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"To make the system work, the right hand of enforcement must know what the left hand of visa application and processing is doing at all times," the president's homeland security adviser, Tom Ridge, told the Senate Judiciary Committee ( news - web sites).

The House in April voted to break up the INS into separate agencies dealing with border enforcement and new citizenship. That vote came before the White House effort to move the entire agency into the proposed Cabinet-level department.

Some lawmakers said it sends the wrong message to combine the job of processing legitimate immigrant visas with that of border control in the new department.

Ridge also expressed confidence in changes at the FBI ( news - web sites) and CIA ( news - web sites), investigative agencies that are to remain independent from the new department despite criticism they failed to provide any warning before the Sept. 11 attacks.

"It is essential that reforms in the FBI and the CIA must continue," said Sen. Orrin Hatch ( news, bio, voting record) of Utah, the committee's top Republican.

Ridge cited steps by the FBI and CIA since Sept. 11, such as better sharing of intelligence information, as evidence they were moving the right direction. He was responding to a question from the committee chairman, Sen. Patrick Leahy ( news, bio, voting record), D-Vt., if a new terrorism investigative agency were needed.

Ridge said he thought FBI Director Robert Mueller was "making very aggressive and very positive steps."

The administration wants to combine 100 federal entities with 170,000 employees and total annual budgets of at least $37 billion into one department — all without spending any extra government money. President Bush ( news - web sites) does not plan to ask for any money for the new department until the 2004 budget year, which many lawmakers say is not realistic.

Agreeing with them was Comptroller General David Walker, head of the General Accounting Office ( news - web sites), the investigate arm of Congress.

Despite possible savings in the long term, he told a Senate Judiciary subcommittee Tuesday, "there will be certain transition costs in the near term associated with setting up the new agency."

Walker also said it will take time to create the department. The White House is encouraging swift passage of legislation setting up the department, and lawmakers are rushing to pass initial versions of the plan by the end of July. But complaints about specific pieces have arisen.

"The magnitude of the challenges that the new department faces will clearly require substantial time and effort, and will take extra resources to make it fully effective," Walker said.

Some lawmakers, health advisers and GAO experts questioned whether public health dangers such as a virulent outbreak of influenza could take a back seat to bioterrorism threats under in the new department.

"It may seriously affect our ability to respond to serious threats to the health of the American people," Rep. Henry Waxman ( news, bio, voting record), D-Calif., said Tuesday at a hearing of the House Energy and Commerce oversight subcommittee.

The department will include the Office of Public Health Emergency Preparedness, the Strategic National Stockpile — which includes packages of pharmaceuticals, antidotes and medical supplies that can be rushed anywhere in the United States within 12 hours — and several programs within the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention ( news - web sites) intended to enhance local public health capabilities.

"Although HHS programs are important for homeland security, they are just as important to the day-to-day needs of public health agencies and hospitals, such as reporting on disease outbreaks," said Janet Heinrich, GAO director of public health issues.


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KEYWORDS: homelandsecurity; immigrantlist; ins
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1 posted on 06/26/2002 9:53:54 AM PDT by RCW2001
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To: RCW2001
Is Ridge a law maker or is he part of the executive? It's not like we are stopping him, so why is he stoping us?
2 posted on 06/26/2002 10:00:53 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: RCW2001
When failed corporations like ENRON or WORLDCOM are beyond redemption and hopelessly corrupt, they go into the toilet and those responsible go to jail.

When failed federal bureaucracies like the INS, FBI and BATF are beyond redemption and hopelessly corrupt, they all get more funding and those reponsible get promoted and fat raises.

What's wrong with this picture?

3 posted on 06/26/2002 10:06:55 AM PDT by Gritty
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To: RCW2001; healey22; lutine; Right_Makes_Might; wku man; sonofliberty2; Fishing Fool; kattracks; ...
Now let me get this straight. The INS has been a mess for years. Even after 9/11, Bush appoints an inexperienced doorman to fix it. The stumblebum doorman turns out to be a libertarian who is even worse than Doris Meissner. Then he appoints Governor Pudgy, another inexperienced and clueless guy, to head up the Dept. of Homeland Security, and this fool says to leave the corrupt, ineffective, and dangerous INS alone? Orwellian. Heads should be rolling in D.C.
4 posted on 06/26/2002 10:43:02 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan
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To: Tancredo Fan
The stumblebum doorman turns out to be a libertarian who is even worse than Doris Meissner...
and this fool says to leave the corrupt, ineffective, and dangerous INS alone?

One of Ridge's top priorities was to make sure border security didn't interfere with NAFTA shipping.

What makes you think he has any concern about illegal immigrants so long as they simply undercut the wages of mere citizens?

5 posted on 06/26/2002 10:48:42 AM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green
One of Ridge's top priorities was to make sure border security didn't interfere with NAFTA shipping. What makes you think he has any concern about illegal immigrants so long as they simply undercut the wages of mere citizens?

Dead bang on! That NAFTA shipping has to come through easier than wwe make our own products. Like via the "smart borders" plan to speed through products from "safe, background checked" companies in Mexico (Ha ha!) The stripmining of the American Middle Class carries on...

6 posted on 06/26/2002 10:56:42 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: Gritty
The SEC, FAA, and CIA aren't any better.
7 posted on 06/26/2002 11:00:34 AM PDT by Righty1
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To: Tancredo Fan
"To make the system work, the right hand of enforcement must know what the left hand of visa application and processing is doing at all times," the president's homeland security adviser, Tom Ridge, told the Senate Judiciary Committee.

He is absolutely correct.

The Senate plan is crap and the House plan is almost identical to Ziglar’s plan, but Ziglar’s plan is better. Ziglar’s plan follows the Barbara Jordan report more closely than the House plan.

The plan that Ziglar proposed in November and has started to implement, is a very good plan and will improve and streamline the INS.

While Ziglar should not be in charge of any border enforcement because of his open borders views, he is a very good manager and has done a good job at cutting deadwood and reorganizing the INS.

8 posted on 06/26/2002 11:07:05 AM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Tancredo Fan
Now let me get this straight. The INS has been a mess for years. Even after 9/11, Bush appoints an inexperienced doorman to fix it. The stumblebum doorman turns out to be a libertarian who is even worse than Doris Meissner.

This is all by design I'm afraid. If actions speak louder than words, the Bush Administration obviously does NOT want an effective INS. Appointing an open borders libertarian like Zieglar, a guy who admits that he has a "philosophical conflict" with enforcing our immigration laws, to run the INS speaks for itself. It’s like a Bank knowingly hiring a Bank Robber to run the Bank's Security. Has anyone ever asked Bush why he did this?

9 posted on 06/26/2002 11:07:15 AM PDT by WRhine
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To: Marine Inspector
An interesting response. You're views are echoed by Juan Mann: Deport Aliens.com .

Under the "Featured Articles" column on the left, page down to the article titled "It's the Fraud, Stupid".

Advocates a single agency sans the EOIR with good communication between enforcement and "services".

10 posted on 06/26/2002 11:23:37 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: RCW2001
"To make the system work, the right hand of enforcement must know what the left hand of visa application and processing is doing at all times," the president's homeland security adviser, Tom Ridge, told the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Isn't the critical visa approval process incredibly still left in the hapless State Dept?

11 posted on 06/26/2002 11:25:06 AM PDT by Fithal the Wise
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To: Fithal the Wise
Isn't the critical visa approval process incredibly still left in the hapless State Dept?

No, sometimes they let efficient Saudi travel agents handle it for them.

12 posted on 06/26/2002 11:28:30 AM PDT by KarlInOhio
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To: Regulator
You can't separate the two sides, without causing a greater problem.

Under the INS plan, there would become two branches of the INS, under one commissioner. The Service branch and the Enforcement branch. That is all the separation you need.

Currently, the service branch runs all the law enforcement except the Border Patrol.

13 posted on 06/26/2002 11:29:59 AM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Regulator
Also, I’ve been to Deport Aliens.com. It's a very good and informative site.
14 posted on 06/26/2002 11:31:25 AM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Regulator
An interesting response. You're views are echoed by Juan Mann: Deport Aliens.com

Thanks for Deport Aliens.com link. While there I drifted over to the FAIR site and noticed they had a batch of new FAXs ready to go.

15 posted on 06/26/2002 11:42:33 AM PDT by WRhine
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To: Thud
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16 posted on 06/26/2002 11:47:18 AM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: WRhine
Another Fax blizzard coming right up. Orrin Hatch is about to get all the wallpaper he needs for the next century.
17 posted on 06/26/2002 1:05:06 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Willie Green

Finally.. something we agree on.

18 posted on 06/26/2002 1:24:40 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: lavaroise
Ridge is a natural born democrat who somehow ended up in the GOP. Of course, given the GOP's current standards, he fits in just fine. I would love to see Tommy boy reduced to his proper level, flipping burgers at McDonald's.

He and his European sounding "homeland security" department need to go down the toilet. We don't need him nor another bureaucracy.
19 posted on 06/26/2002 1:25:49 PM PDT by Twodees
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To: WRhine

Amazing, isn't it?

Ya know, I used to be a cop.. but I had to quit because I didn't want people to go to jail.

Then I was a fisherman, but I don't like to hurt fish..

After that I was a construction worker, but I hate to build things..

20 posted on 06/26/2002 1:28:10 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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