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Rumsfeld Says Cuts Needed Now To Major U.S. Weapons Programs
Bloomberg.com | June 25, 2002 | Tony Capaccio

Posted on 06/26/2002 8:53:05 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen

Washington -- The Pentagon must make ``modest'' cuts or shifts in major defense programs this year to reduce the explosion of costs when procurement begins in 2008 and 2009, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said.

``It could be a cancellation, it could be shifting something to a farther year out so the cost doesn't hit at exactly the time of other costs,'' he said. ``It could be skipping a generation of technologies. It could be moderating the size of something.''

Rumsfeld worries that ballooning costs in current programs won't allow the U.S. to buy the newer technology needed to make the military lighter, quicker and easier to deploy.

``As these things grow and become not research programs but acquisition programs, you end up with an amount of money being projected that grows geometrically,'' the secretary said in an interview Monday with Bloomberg News.

``The `bow wave' is gigantic,'' Rumsfeld said, referring to the growing aggregate cost of current systems. ``A few modest changes early on can affect that very favorably.''

``If you wait, three, four, five years, you're facing a wall that's 50 feet high,'' he said. ``Doing this is never easy, on the other hand it's a lot easier with a budget that's growing than with one that's shrinking.''

Won't Name Programs

The secretary wouldn't single out which programs are in for cuts or revision.

Last month he ordered planners to devise strategies by Sept. 1 for potential cuts to the Lockheed Martin Corp. F-22 fighter; the Boeing Co.-United Technologies Corp. Comanche helicopter; the Boeing-Textron Inc. V-22 Osprey tilt-rotor aircraft; the Northrop Grumman Corp. CVNX aircraft carrier; and, a new space-based radar for continuous surveillance of an adversary such as North Korea.

``In some cases, we will forego currently planned weapons systems to invest in capabilities that will reduce future risk,'' Rumsfeld writes in an internal order guiding the fiscal 2004-2009 budget. The space-based radar program hasn't begun so no cost is projected; the other four programs total about $167 billion.

The defense secretary canceled United Defense Industries Inc.'s $11 billion Crusader howitzer program last month. The contractor, the Army and their allies in Congress resisted and the weapon's utility and funding are still being debated, showing how tough it is to cancel a weapons program once it's underway.

Other Costs

The fact that Congress is about to approve the largest increase in defense spending in two decades shouldn't lull anyone into thinking most of it's going into weapons, the secretary said.

``A big chunk of it is for conducting the global war on terrorism'' as well as to cover growth in costs for health care, salaries and military infrastructure, Rumsfeld said. ``There are a lot of calls for the funds being authorized and appropriated that are really away from the weapons side of the house.''

Of the $396 billion requested for fiscal 2003, $124 billion, or less than one-third, is for weapons research and procurement. That's $10 billion more than this year and $26 billion or 27 percent more than fiscal 2000.

By comparison, military personnel costs, including health and pay, have increased by 29 percent, to $94 billion, from $73 billion in 2000. Similarly, operations and maintenance costs have increased by 39 percent, to $150 billion for fiscal 2003 from $108 billion in 2000.

Cost Projections

Rumsfeld's concern is driven in part by Pentagon projections of spending through 2019 to research, develop and buy current weapons.

The current $124 billion increases gradually to $145 billion in fiscal 2007. It grows to $165 billion in fiscal 2008 and is that much or higher in each of the next five years.

The Joint Strike Fighter alone will demand $5.8 billion in 2008 when the first large purchase of planes is scheduled. And there's no hint of cutting this Lockheed program, which at $226 billion will be the costliest in combat aircraft history, with 2,852 planes scheduled for delivery to the U.S. Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps and British Royal Navy.

Other commitments in 2008 include: $5.3 billion for the F-22; $5.1 billion to buy two Virginia class submarines; $3 billion for the new DD-X destroyer; $3.6 billion for the F/A-18E/F; $3 billion for the Army Future Combat System; $3 billion for the Comanche; $2.9 billion for a new LHA class of Navy amphibious assault ship and, $988 million to start procurement of a new Navy multimission aircraft.

While long-range schedules and costs are inevitably adjusted because of cuts and tests failures, ``the reality is that the bow wave that exists is of sufficient magnitude that reasonable people will say the time to fix it is now,'' he said.

``Every year you wait and you are much closer to it requires a much more severe change -- it can mean `wrenching' and harmful to people,'' he said.



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1 posted on 06/26/2002 8:53:05 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Donald Rumsfled is one of my all-time favorites. He speaks forthrightly and with common sense.
2 posted on 06/26/2002 9:12:54 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Stand Watch Listen
I think they should forget about the Super Hornet. Everything I read about it prooves it's a piece of crap and it's out performed by older aircraft like the F-14D. Why do they need the Super Hornet if they have a navalized JSF anyways?

The DDX destroyer is very impressive, I hope that does'nt get cancelled.

The F-22 has been cut from 295 aircrafts to 180. This is not enough for such a large air force. The original order was 700 or something like it.

3 posted on 06/26/2002 9:25:05 AM PDT by ZaDomSpremni
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To: ZaDomSpremni
F-22 has a program history that goes back to the early 1980's. It has had cost-overrun after cost-overrun.

Don't get me wrong, it's a beautiful thing in the air. But the fact is, if we go up against the Chicoms with that thing, we'll get attrited badly. Too damned expensive. Stick with the JSF.

Oh, and please, someone kill the Super Hornet.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

4 posted on 06/26/2002 9:31:40 AM PDT by section9
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To: Stand Watch Listen
In other words here - We don't have enough money to protect you on a continuous basis because we have spent it all on Teddy's school program & Dasholle's farm subsidies, etc with the approval of my boss.
5 posted on 06/26/2002 9:54:22 AM PDT by Digger
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To: ZaDomSpremni
Nothing can duplicate what the F-14D does. The JSF will certainly not have nearly either the range or speed. And it is at the end of its service life, and they are talking about retiring it forthwith en masse in 3-4 years. No more F-14s to provide air superiority afterwards. Nothing but short-range F-18s, the Super F-18 is just a stop-gap to help bridge the gap. Unfortunately, I don't see the JSF as worth waiting for. We basically need a new F-14.
6 posted on 06/26/2002 10:03:31 AM PDT by Paul Ross
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To: section9
Since the JSF is mostly BASED on the F-22 developments, I think you are getting a distorted notion as to the relative economics of the two planes. And keep in mind it is a virtual cinch that the JSF fly-away numbers are BOGUS, as are its acquisition numbers...which allows them to make their advantageous comparisons at all. And keep in mind that the down-sizing of the buys on the F-22 have been seriously counterproductive. And the JSF is also beginning to look like a big grab-bag of add-ons to potentially hinder actual combat-worthiness.
7 posted on 06/26/2002 10:12:11 AM PDT by Paul Ross
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To: Clara Lou
I am starting to think Rummy is drinking too much of the OSDPA&E coolaid.
8 posted on 06/26/2002 10:27:59 AM PDT by sauropod
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To: Clara Lou; Paul Ross
Rummy is not making good modernization decisions, IMNSHO.
9 posted on 06/26/2002 10:29:33 AM PDT by sauropod
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To: sauropod; Digger
Hey, multi-billion dollar, state of the art weapons are NOT going to defeat THIS enemy.
10 posted on 06/26/2002 10:29:57 AM PDT by gjpino
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To: sauropod; Digger
And at the same time, multi-billion dollar programs aren't gonna improve education either.
11 posted on 06/26/2002 10:34:45 AM PDT by gjpino
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To: Stand Watch Listen
I'm Army but I can't understand how we can continue to shrink the Navy. If the bottom line is that we'll continue to reduce our seapower then I have to question Secretary Rumsfeld's priorities.

I served in the US Army Europe. If we brought it home, thereby saving a mountain of money, nobody'd miss it beyond those in the Army who've made a career of living in Europe.

12 posted on 06/26/2002 12:07:15 PM PDT by caltrop
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To: Digger
In other words here - We don't have enough money to protect you on a continuous basis because we have spent it all on Teddy's school program & Dasholle's farm subsidies, etc with the approval of my boss.

How True.

13 posted on 06/26/2002 12:09:36 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: sauropod
Rummy is not making good modernization decisions, IMNSHO.

I think this is just more of the Bush sr/Cheney policy of their continuation of the downsizing our military. One poster stated we need another F-14. Thanks to the so called genius military mind of Cheney we no longer have the means to produce as much. He ordered the mold {tooling} destroyed.

14 posted on 06/26/2002 3:53:32 PM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: cva66snipe; gjpino
cva. Unbelievable. Of course every conflict is solvable with airpower alone. < /sarcasm>

Gj, try and look beyone one conflict, okay? 'Pod

15 posted on 06/27/2002 7:57:58 AM PDT by sauropod
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To: sauropod
Well, if Rummy and the military don't want it, neither do I. I trust his judgement on this.

I think our whole mindset needs to change. As the Maginot Line was designed for WWI trench warfare, it proved useless in WWII mobile warfare. As WWI type warfare went the way of the dodo bird, WWII type warfare has as well.
16 posted on 06/27/2002 8:03:41 AM PDT by gjpino
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To: gjpino
That's my point. Neither Rummy, nor his advisors, have the right picture of what is needed.

Just because we are not using heavy stuff NOW does not mean we do not need it anymore. The Crusader was supposed to replace Paladin, which has a 1950s era chassis which is too slow to keep up w/ the maneuver force, has a much shorter range and ROF, a huge logistical tail, and does not meet the needs assessments of the operational community. A lot of effort went into developing the Crusader, and it suffered a major setback because a certain general officer made a pronouncement about how he would like everything to be moveable on C-130s.

This caused a complete redesign of the system and delayed development and fielding of it.

Further, Crusader promised the ability of significant force reductions. The reductions have already been taken and now there is no new system to enable these reductions not to hurt. Doesn't sound too smart, does it?

People within the building have always hated the system and therefore gave Rummy poor advice IMNSHO.

Your analogy is a false one, because no technological advance has been made that I am aware of to obviate the need for a heavy force capability.

I do not trust his judgement on this. 'Pod

17 posted on 06/27/2002 10:44:11 AM PDT by sauropod
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To: sauropod
True you can't cut the older fighting machines like ships, tanks, and other weapons without first having a working and tested {proven} replacement. I mentioned the F-14 because structure wise and preformance wise it is the best fighter to grace the skies. Designs can only be improved so much. The basic plane should have been kept with research and development going into better avionics that alone would have drastically cut cost and still left us with a good craft to work with.

Also too much noise is being made about Light Assualt vehicles. It's good in some places so is the old reliable M1-A when the going gets rough. Neither is the complete answer to all types of warfare. Use and maintain a respectable level of both. Develop the newer generation weapons but not at the expense of our old ones just on a possibility the newer one might or might not work.

18 posted on 06/27/2002 11:54:40 AM PDT by cva66snipe
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