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Black, Jewish legislators meet as relationship comes under strain
JTA.ORG ^ | 6/25/02 | Sharon Samber

Posted on 06/26/2002 7:39:17 AM PDT by LarryLied

WASHINGTON, June 20 (JTA) — Black-Jewish relations on Capitol Hill have never been the easiest to maintain, and a hotly contested primary in Alabama and the volatile Israeli-Palestinian conflict are making things more tense than ever.

On the surface, Jewish and black members of Congress maintain a strong alliance that has its roots in the civil rights movement. Behind the scenes, however, groups and individual members are struggling to shore up what many say is a battered relationship.

Matters have come to a head over Jewish support for the challenger to Rep. Earl Hilliard (D-Ala.), a member of the Congressional Black Caucus, and frustration from Jewish legislators who do not understand their black colleagues´ lack of support on Israel votes.

The two issues come together in the case of Hilliard, who voted in the U.S. House of Representatives against resolutions expressing American solidarity with Israel and blaming Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat for violence in the region.

Jewish groups also point to Hilliard´s longtime voting record against Israel.

Jewish supporters have rallied behind challenger Artur Davis, a lawyer. Though Davis also is black, members of the Black Caucus see the rejection of the incumbent as a slap in the face.

Democratic activists say Jewish support simply is swinging to someone who will vote for Israel, especially during a period of crisis in the Middle East.

The American Israel Public Affairs Committee notes that many caucus members have strong records on Israel.

"Some individuals have an interest in making a bigger issue out of the status of black-Jewish relations than what really exists," one AIPAC official said.

A number of caucus members joined with Hilliard in voting against a House resolution backing Israel and condemning Palestinian suicide bombings.

But black and Jewish lawmakers often find themselves on the same side on many issues — such as housing, education, and gun control.

Indeed, it seems much of the problem is one of perception. Some black members believe Jewish representatives are not supportive of black candidates, and some do not seem to realize the importance of votes on Israel, said a senior staffer for a Jewish legislator.

Yet at the same time as Jewish and black lawmakers recognize that tensions are mounting, they also are sure relations will improve.

Signs of strain were evident at the Black/Jewish Congressional Awards Ceremony on Thursday, sponsored by the Foundation for Ethnic Understanding, but lawmakers still spoke with optimism about the future.

The black and Jewish members of Congress are "like a family," said Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-Texas), chair of the Black Caucus. "The family needs dialogue right now."

Rep. Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.) said each side needs to show respect for the other. Legislators need "to figure out what causes others pain," he said.

The chairwoman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, Nita Lowey (D- N.Y.), who did not sign a letter encouraging members to contribute to Hilliard´s campaign, said Jewish and black legislators still have a strong bond.

Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) speculated about how the outcome of the June 25 runoff between Hilliard and Davis could affect relations betwen the two groups. Tensions will recede if Hilliard wins.

Others predicted that the fissures in the black-Jewish relationship could widen if Davis emerges on top.

Like many others, Nadler promised there would be more meetings and private conversations among black and Jewish legislators.

Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-Fla.), a member of the caucus, was upset over Jewish support for Davis, and hinted that he might not support aid to Israel. After a recent meeting with Howard Kohr, the executive director of AIPAC, Hastings backed away from his remarks.

But Hastings still has reservations about the repercussions of the Hilliard race. Asked Thursday about Jewish support for Davis, he said "I understand it, but I don´t like it."

Rabbi Marc Schneier, who heads the Foundation for Ethnic Understanding, said part of the problem is generational, as older black and Jewish members of Congress fought together in the civil rights movement and also understand the importance of support for Israel.

"We need to sensitize younger black members to our support for Israel and other issues of importance to the Jewish community," he said.

Abraham Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League, said the "eruptions of anger" from the black side come around election time, but that the Jewish community has a right to be upset with candidates who do not support Israel.

When legislators vote against Israel, "The Jewish community feels the same way, whatever their color," Foxman said.

Most members of the Black Caucus understand that, Foxman said, but they have to convince others.

The ADL is meeting with members of the caucus, as well as other black and Jewish legislators, so "this does not become a crisis," Foxman said.


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Rep. Earl Hilliard's (D-AL) lost Tuesday. It wasn't even close. His side is claiming 81% of his opponent's campaign contributions came from outside Alabama, mostly from New York.
1 posted on 06/26/2002 7:39:17 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
Though Davis also is black, members of the Black Caucus see the rejection of the incumbent as a slap in the face.

Screw 'em. They know how politics works. They played the game and lost. No sour grapes, please.

2 posted on 06/26/2002 7:47:44 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: LarryLied
Who was Larry and what lie did he tell you?
3 posted on 06/26/2002 7:52:54 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: monkeyshine
It's nice to see a rift between two of the most lock-step liberal groups (blacks & jews) to whom the Democrats MUST pander, but it doesn't mean much as far Alabama's 7th Congressional district goes: meet the new Commie, same as the old Commie.

DWG

4 posted on 06/26/2002 7:53:50 AM PDT by DownWithGreenspan
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To: monkeyshine
No sour grapes, please.

Why not? This is great!

Unfortunately the media will report in depth about division in the Republican party over abortion and every other issue but we won't be hearing much about this.

But that doesn't matter. Jewish and Black Democrats know what happened. Let's hope the split widens.

5 posted on 06/26/2002 7:56:50 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: sheik yerbouty
Who was Larry and what lie did he tell you?

From that off-topic personal remark about me, I take it you think division within the Democratic Party is not a good thing for me to have posted.

Why?

You want them to be united against Republicans?

6 posted on 06/26/2002 7:59:36 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
It doesn't matter if there is a rift between black and Jewish politicians. Black anti-semitism is not new. But both groups are still diehard liberals and would no more vote Republican than members of this forum would vote Democrat. This "rift" is meaningless in the face of electoral politics. What is interesting is that no matter how vile the slander, Jews still fall all over themselves fawning to blacks.
7 posted on 06/26/2002 8:00:32 AM PDT by Batrachian
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To: DownWithGreenspan
No. The new commie is pro Israel.
8 posted on 06/26/2002 8:02:01 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: LarryLied
You can thank the ADL and AIPAC for this division. See, they're not ALL bad, are they? :-)
9 posted on 06/26/2002 8:02:49 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: LarryLied
Jewish supporters have rallied behind challenger Artur Davis, a lawyer. Though Davis also is black, members of the Black Caucus see the rejection of the incumbent as a slap in the face.

Wow! Are these people that nieve they can't see how they are seen by others who actually don't have a racist agenda. The black caucus will support any minority view, from any Minority Group, no matter what it's end result is to the USA. They could care less. They are blinded by their own racism. Wake up folks you are destoying the good amongst you. Lets hope and pray the younger generations haven't been corrupted like the Arab Children have.

Blame NO ONE but yourselves.

10 posted on 06/26/2002 8:09:42 AM PDT by chachacha
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To: Batrachian
Jews still fall all over themselves fawning to blacks.

Not as much. The under 35 Jewish vote (the Guliani vote) is not sewn up, by any means. However, a total rift is not likely, but a partial rift is just fine and dandy, IMO.

11 posted on 06/26/2002 8:10:09 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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It wouldn't take much. 500,000 votes switching from Dem to GOP in Florida, New York and/or California would make these states extremely competitive for the GOP.
12 posted on 06/26/2002 8:16:17 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: LarryLied
P.J. O'Rourke has an article in the current (July-August) issue of the Atlantic Monthly about the Death to Israel "peace" hatefest on the Mall in D.C. on 4/20. O'Rourke confirms that Cynthia McKinney spoke from the podium at that hatefest. He says he saw and heard her speak.
13 posted on 06/26/2002 8:18:14 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: Batrachian
Black anti-semitism is not new.

Maybe some Blacks don't like what Jews do. Such as sending money from NYC to defeat a Black progressive in Alabama. That is possible, isn't it? I imagine it goes both ways also. Jews who don't like Blacks aren't necessarily racists. They simply do not like what some blacks do. Crown Heights and voting against Israel for instance.

14 posted on 06/26/2002 8:18:59 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
I wonder how much the aggressive jailhouse recruiting for converts to Islam (funded by our dear pals the Saudis) factors into this (several good articles have been posted on FR.)
15 posted on 06/26/2002 8:21:25 AM PDT by justanotherfreeper
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To: LarryLied
No.It wasn't a rfemark, it was a question. I think you have an obsession with Jews in general. Be that as it may, I would like to see the Dems defeated all the way down to dog catcher, lest they aspire to higher office.
16 posted on 06/26/2002 8:27:04 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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Black conservative ping

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17 posted on 06/26/2002 8:29:04 AM PDT by mhking
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The higher the flames rise, the more I like it.
18 posted on 06/26/2002 8:33:22 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: LarryLied
"Maybe some Blacks don't like what Jews do".

I think you added a couple of superfluous words there. I would have said:

"Maybe some blacks don't like Jews".

This fellow Hilliard voted against condemning suicide bombings because he simply doesn't like Jews (which is strange considering the role Jews played in the "civil rights" movement, but that's racism for you), not because he disliked some specific thing that Jews did. Even if what you say is true, doesn't it seem a little extreme to vote in favor of murdering Jews just because they supported his opponent? We're talking serious hatred here.

The Anti Defamation League recently put out a report stating that 17% of Americans are hard-core Jew haters. I think we now know who they where talking about.

19 posted on 06/26/2002 8:44:08 AM PDT by Batrachian
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To: monkeyshine
It wouldn't take much. 500,000 votes switching from Dem to GOP in Florida, New York and/or California would make these states extremely competitive for the GOP.

Actually it’s a virtual impossibility, other than NY. Given their Jewish populations, FL, 628,000, CA, 967,000, and NY 1,653,000, if 75% are voting age, that’s only possible in NY.

20 posted on 06/26/2002 9:03:36 AM PDT by SJackson
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