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DAMON VAN DAM Barred From Westerfield Trial: Feldman challenges PORN evidence. 6-26-02 Trial Thread
Union Tribune ^ | June 25, 2002 | Ben Fox

Posted on 06/25/2002 4:33:41 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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PhotoFeldman blasts away at PORN evidence, as SDPD Computer Expert crumbles under intense questioning....


1 posted on 06/25/2002 4:33:41 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: MizSterious; spectre; Amore; Travis McGee; BunnySlippers; DoughtyOne; Hillary's Lovely Legs; ...
PING...) ) ) New Thread Alert...
2 posted on 06/25/2002 4:35:39 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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Van Dam also raised concern when he asked detailed questions about how deputies transported Westerfield to and from the courtroom, said Sheriff's Deputy C.K. McKenzie.

Given the security and facility set up at H.O.J., he would've had a chance to approach Westerfield, anyway. If he was going to try something, his only opportunity would've been in the court room.

3 posted on 06/25/2002 4:41:46 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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To: Jagdgewehr
DAY 13: DAMON VAN DAM BANNED FROM COURT

(06-25-2002) - Pictures of Danielle van Dam and her plastic necklace helped everyone recognize her when she was still missing. Today, orange fibers found on that plastic necklace are the focus of the prosecution's case against accused killer David Westerfield.

Fiber evidence is key in this case, especially for prosecutors who are expected to end their case against David Westerfield this week.

Also today Judge William Mudd banned Danielle's father, Damon van Dam, from the courtroom and the third floor of the courthouse, for either stalking or trying to stare down the defendant.

Because of a gag order, no details were immediately released. But as of Tuesday, Damon van Dam is under orders to stay away from the Westerfield trial.

There are no private entrances for defendants in the courthouse, and Westerfield is brought up in elevators or stairwells each day, accompanied by four sheriff's deputies.

Van Dam, who is said to wander the hallways of the courthouse, is believed to be either staring at the defendant or stalking him.

On the stand Tuesday, San Diego police trace evidence specialist Jennifer Shen, testified that she looked at four different items in Westerfield's home, including laundry found inside and on top of his drier and inside his washer. She also examined the bedding in Westerfield's bedroom and noticed bright orange fibers that she said she recognized.

"When I was examining the victim's, things taken from the victim, I examined in particular her necklace that was taken from her neck by the medical examiner. As I examined that, I noted when I examined it that in the necklace, tangled in hair that was tangled around the necklace, was a long orange fiber," said Shen.

However, the prosecution has yet to clarify the origin of the orange fibers.

Shen also said she found hairs similar to Danielle's and to the Van Dam family dog's hairs in the 50-year-old defendant's laundry.

In the meantime, defense attorney Steven Feldman tried to point out that all the material could have been transferred when the 7-year-old was in Westerfield's home selling Girl Scout Cookies just days before she vanished.

Still, prosecutors say the evidence is extremely significant to the case.

"Because it was knotted in the hair and because the hair was knotted in the necklace, and because the fiber is covered in debris, and the hair and the necklace are covered in a similar debris, it appears tat the fiber and the hair were on the body from the time that it was placed where it was found. Versus having been placed on the body at some later time," said Shen. "It also is reasonable, I think, to conclude that that fiber came in contact with the body and the necklace at or near the time of her death."

Shen also spoke about blue/gray colored fiber found in the victim and in Westerfield's wash. However, Shen admitted that she did not know the exact source of the fibers or where they came from. But she did testify that a possible source could be a knitted afghan blanket.

4 posted on 06/25/2002 4:43:25 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: Jagdgewehr
...H.O.J., he would've...

would've = wouldn't have

5 posted on 06/25/2002 4:44:08 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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To: FresnoDA
Remember the incident ("caught on tape!") of Bubba Clintoon coming out of Ron Brown's funeral yukking it up and having a good ol' time, then when he saw the tv cameras he immediately put on the sad face and wiped away a "tear"? Ol' PDVD reminds me of the Actor-in-Chief.
6 posted on 06/25/2002 4:44:51 PM PDT by shezza
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To: UCANSEE2; FresnoDA; Mrs.Liberty; demsux; MizSterious; Jaded; skipjackcity; RnMomof7; spectre; ...
Here is a copy of the most current PING list.

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7 posted on 06/25/2002 4:53:14 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: FresnoDA
There are no private entrances for defendants in the courthouse, and Westerfield is brought up in elevators or stairwells each day, accompanied by four sheriff's deputies.

This is incorrect.

Westerfield's access to the court room is through secured "back" hallway accesses. The elevator he rides is not accessable to the public, and security is very tight. Van Dam would be stopped before he would even catch sight of Westerfield.

8 posted on 06/25/2002 4:57:52 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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To: FresnoDA
I watched the cross examination of the SDPD computer specialist. It did not appear to me the the witness crumbled. Feldman's points seemed to be:

1. The photos admitted into evidence could not be "linked" to Westerfield's "office" computer.

2. Discs containing at least some of the images may not have been in plain view when they were seized by the police.

3. It is not possible to say who downloaded the images admitted into evidence.

Unless Feldman introduces evidence as to who, other than Westerfield, may have downloaded the pictures, points 1 and 3 will be of little moment. Point 2 could be troubling for the prosecution because the discs in question were seized when the police were searching his home at his invitation, rather than pursuant to a warrant.

9 posted on 06/25/2002 5:05:31 PM PDT by p. henry
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To: shezza
Ditto.
10 posted on 06/25/2002 5:05:34 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: shezza
yeppers. all for show.
11 posted on 06/25/2002 5:52:26 PM PDT by homeschool mama
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To: FresnoDA
B4B

12 posted on 06/25/2002 7:49:58 PM PDT by dread78645
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To: FresnoDA
If someone killed my baby, they'd be dead by now. Good for Damon.
13 posted on 06/25/2002 7:51:00 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy
"If someone killed my baby, they'd be dead by now."....I've got to admit, I feel the same way. It would be hard to feel differently.



14 posted on 06/25/2002 7:55:38 PM PDT by skipjackcity
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To: UCANSEE2; FresnoDA; Mrs.Liberty; demsux; MizSterious; Jaded; skipjackcity; RnMomof7; spectre; ...
THis is the new THREAD for THURSDAY.

Thank You to new PINGERS, Henrietta, Blue Screen of Death, and pubmom!

15 posted on 06/26/2002 12:12:52 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: goldenstategirl
How silly.
16 posted on 06/26/2002 1:20:39 AM PDT by Greg Weston
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To: homeschool mama
How would you know?
17 posted on 06/26/2002 1:21:13 AM PDT by Greg Weston
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To: UCANSEE2
THis is the new THREAD for THURSDAY.

I must have missed it . …. Where is the thread for Wednesday? . …. TIA

18 posted on 06/26/2002 1:38:41 AM PDT by MACD
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I know it's probably silly and pointless - but that orange acrylic fiber thing is really bugging me. The one criminalist thought it may have come from a blanket or sweater - well I'm thinking not too many guys have orange sweaters - but I'm also thinking the item the fibers came from had to be predominately or entirely orange - or they would have found similar fibers of different colors around too (say if they had come from a orange and black striped afghan or something - wouldn't there be a lot of the black fibers too) - anyway - a little googling and I found these things that were 100% orange acrylic and seemed like they could be relevant -

http://216.239.39.100/search?q =cache:vS2SlUNQZbAC:www.pmxmed ical.com/catalog/page23.html+o range+acrylic+fibers&hl=en &ie=UTF-8 - cot blanket from a medical supply company.

http://www.westernsafety.com/p erfectfit1.html - gloves - sorry this one's not a googled link - the gloves are like the blue style as you scroll down the page.

http://216.239.39.100/search?q =cache:oOmmlFE3ezEC:www.blueco llarsupply.com/wigwam_ski_mask s.htm+orange+acrylic+fibers&am p;hl=en&ie=UTF-8 - ski mask - lots of sites with various brands of ski type hats or watch caps.

http://216.239.39.100/search?q =cache:_sCJKscB6BkC:www.geezer .com/item.html%3FitemID%3D7625 +orange+acrylic+sweater&hl =en&ie=UTF-8 - even something for the dogs in this case - a dog sweater.

Of all these items - the ski cap or watch cap is the most intriguing to me - could he have put one over her head - maybe she squirmed around alot - like on the bed - and that's why there are so many of the fibers on the pillowcase - and it could have gotten on the necklace pretty easily that way - and a cap like that would be easy to ditch.
Any thoughts anyone?


19 posted on 06/26/2002 1:48:46 AM PDT by mommya
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To: MACD
Per your request

Wednesday's Thread link

20 posted on 06/26/2002 2:10:02 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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