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Marijuana Petition Gathers Necessary Signatures for Ballot
Las Vegas Sun ^ | 06-25-02 | Cy Ryan,

Posted on 06/25/2002 11:42:38 AM PDT by WindMinstrel

A proposed constitutional amendment to allow adults to have a small amount of marijuana without being charged with a crime has cleared its first hurdle, the secretary of state's office said Monday. Kristi Geiser, campaign finance officer for the office, said the initiative petitions contain 109,048 signatures, far more than the 61,336 needed to qualify for the November ballot.

Verification of the signatures now starts and must be finished by July 8, Geiser said. In counties where there are fewer than 500 signatures on the petition, every one must be examined to determine if the person who signed is a registered voter.

In the other counties the clerks or registrar of voters must sample 5 percent or 500 signatures, whichever is more.

The signatures must represent 10 percent of registered voters in 13 of the 17 counties. The raw count shows the petition had the necessary signatures in all counties except Elko and Douglas.

Billy Rogers, a spokesman for the group circulating the petition, said he is confident there are enough valid signatures to be eligible for the ballot.

The drive is being sponsored by the nonprofit Medical Marijuana Project, based in Washington, D.C. Rogers said the petition-gathering process in Nevada cost $300,000.

"We got 109,000 signatures in 40 days," he said. "That's impressive."

He said he wanted to wait until the verification process is completed before any plans are revealed on the campaign for ballot approval. It must be approved this November and then in 2004 before it becomes part of the state Constitution.

The petition would permit 21-year-old and older Nevadans to possess up to three ounces of marijuana. It also authorizes the Legislature to establish a distribution system.

Nevadans at the last election gave final approval to a constitutional amendment to allow Nevadans to possess marijuana for medical purposes, once they get a statement from a doctor.

"Under the current law, seriously ill cancer patients are forced to grow their own marijuana or to purchase it from the criminal market," Rogers said. "This initiative will allow seriously ill patients to purchase medical marijuana through a regulated market."

A tax would be levied similar to the one on tobacco products, which are now taxed at 30 percent of wholesale value. That produces more than $7 million in revenue.

Advertising of marijuana would be prohibited, as would shipping it into or out of the state.

The petition says the Legislature shall provide for penalties for driving dangerously or operating heavy machinery while under the influence of marijuana. Those under 21 year old would not be allowed to possess or use the drug.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: cannabis; decriminalization; hemp; nevada; pot; wod; wodlist
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1 posted on 06/25/2002 11:42:38 AM PDT by WindMinstrel
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To: *Wod_list
wod-list bump
2 posted on 06/25/2002 11:43:28 AM PDT by WindMinstrel
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To: WindMinstrel
What is with all the pot threads recently?
3 posted on 06/25/2002 11:45:21 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: johniegrad
beats debugging this stored procedure I'm working on!
4 posted on 06/25/2002 11:46:05 AM PDT by WindMinstrel
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To: WindMinstrel
Although I am all for the legalization of all "illegal drugs", this amendment is a bad idea. It lets the legislature "set up a distribution system". Sorry, the government does not control marijuana now, and there is no need to let them control a small portion of the market. I'd vote no on this if I lived in Nevada.
5 posted on 06/25/2002 11:47:10 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: WindMinstrel
We got 109,000 signatures in 40 days," he said. "That's impressive

A good example of what happens when a state attempts a government by the people and for the people. Because this clearly represents the will of the people, it will certainly be crushed.

Come running all you WOD statist wonks! This one must drive you crazy!
6 posted on 06/25/2002 11:47:52 AM PDT by Neckbone
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To: WindMinstrel
"Legislature shall provide for penalties for driving dangerously or operating heavy machinery while under the influence of marijuana"

This will not work effectively as MJ can be detected in your system for many days otr even weeks after it is used.

I don't know anyone who was convicted because of this, but I do know one person who was aquitted of driving under the influence of a controlled substance by using this same defence.
I was with him earlier on the evening in question and he was extremely stoned.
7 posted on 06/25/2002 12:04:55 PM PDT by HEY4QDEMS
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To: HEY4QDEMS
My understanding is that cannabis can only be detected in the bloodstream for a few hours, so blood tests are a fairly good test of cannabis intoxication. Perhaps that would work?
8 posted on 06/25/2002 12:19:19 PM PDT by WindMinstrel
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To: FreeTally
any method is a step in the right direction.
baby steps is all, little baby steps at time
9 posted on 06/25/2002 12:20:26 PM PDT by vin-one
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To: WindMinstrel
You may be right, I'm no expert.

I'm just glad I wasn't called to testify, he's a good friend of mine so I'm glad he beat it.
10 posted on 06/25/2002 12:22:00 PM PDT by HEY4QDEMS
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To: FreeTally
That's nuts FT. If you haven't noticed, libertarians are outnumbered. We've got to take what we can get, and then go from there.
11 posted on 06/25/2002 12:26:14 PM PDT by NC_Libertarian
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To: WindMinstrel
My understanding is that cannabis can only be detected in the bloodstream for a few hours, so blood tests are a fairly good test of cannabis intoxication.

I may be wrong, but I thought it was the same as urine - up to thrity days if you are a heavy smoker.

12 posted on 06/25/2002 12:26:42 PM PDT by FreeTally
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To: WindMinstrel
Dang, next thing ya know they'll have legalized gambling and prostitution....uh, never mind.
13 posted on 06/25/2002 12:27:39 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: HEY4QDEMS
I don't know anyone who was convicted because of this, but I do know one person who was aquitted of driving under the influence of a controlled substance by using this same defence.

There was a story posted on FR, maybe a year ago, about a school bus driver who was involved in a wreck. The blood test, I assume, showed cannabis in her system, although she was not under the influence, and claimed she had smoked three days earlier. The tests showed a "faint" trace, if I remember correctly. But under some screwed up State law, she was given a mandatory prison sentence that applied to anyone who caused a wreck with the traces of "illegal drugs" in their system.

I wish I had the reference, or even knew which state it was, but I do not. It was a fairly lengthy thread, so someone around here should remember it.

14 posted on 06/25/2002 12:30:32 PM PDT by FreeTally
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To: FreeTally
Metabolites, not THC, can be found in the urine for up to 30 days. One of the reasons why they don't do blood tests (or field sobriety tests, for that matter) as part of "drug-free workplace" initiatives is that measuring intoxication on-site isn't the goal. They wanna know what you're doing on your time.
15 posted on 06/25/2002 12:30:53 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: NC_Libertarian
That's nuts FT. If you haven't noticed, libertarians are outnumbered. We've got to take what we can get, and then go from there.

I know I may be in the minority with this position, but I refuse to support any initiative or law that allows the federal government to legally profit from "previously" illegal drugs once they are legalized. It is extortion in the greatest sense if one day, I can be imprisoned or killed for merely possessing a substance, and then the next, its all huncky dorry, as long as I pay the proper tribute.

After nearly 70 years of lies, distortions and the disruption/taking of lives, I personally would not allow the government to have the power to bring in revenue from the sale or taxing of previously illegal drugs. Call it a "punishment" of sorts. If pot or "drugs" were ever legalized on a national scale, I would support a Constitutional Amendment removing all "previously" illegal drugs from the taxing authority of any level of government. That is their just rewards.

I understand the point of many of you, that any step towards decriminalization is a positive step. I just can not support a "solution" that allows a government, who would previously imprison or kill citizens for mere possession, to profit from the sale or distribution of these previously egregious objects. Its not fair to the thousands who have been killed in this drug war, the innocent or the "guilty".

Try telling the family of the missionaries shot down over Columbia, or the families of those "mistakenly" shot in raids, "Hey, its all fine now, no one else will be shot/gunned down as long as we pay the government". I'm sure they will be comforted.

16 posted on 06/25/2002 12:41:00 PM PDT by FreeTally
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To: Wolfie
So how long can they detect it in the blood stream? Know any scientific number?
17 posted on 06/25/2002 12:42:13 PM PDT by FreeTally
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To: FreeTally
from NORML:
BLOOD TESTS: In some situations, including accidents and roadside sobriety checks, blood tests may be used. Blood tests are a much better gauge of current impairment than urine tests because they detect the actual presence of THC in the system; however, they can be sensitive to other metabolites as well. Blood tests generally register positive for just a few hours after smoking, though heavy chronic smokers may be positive for a couple of days. Less sensitive are saliva tests, which register positive for about 2-4 hours after smoking. If you have used marijuana in the last few days but are not currently under the influence, you should insist on a blood (or saliva) test instead of a urine test if at all possible, since you are more likely to turn up clean. On the other hand, if you have smoked recently, you may do better to take a urine test, since this will at least leave open the question as to whether you were under the influence. Also, urine doesn't turn positive until several minutes after smoking.
18 posted on 06/25/2002 12:46:01 PM PDT by WindMinstrel
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To: FreeTally
You mean how long does it take to sober up? I'm not sure, but give me a few hours, and I'll let you know ;^)
19 posted on 06/25/2002 12:47:36 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: WindMinstrel
Also, urine doesn't turn positive until several minutes after smoking.

I caught this as kind of humorous. What are the chances that the cop catches you just as you took the first hit? That's what I's call bad luck.

20 posted on 06/25/2002 12:49:53 PM PDT by FreeTally
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