Email: The Future of Free Republic

Email | 06/25/02 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

The following email is being circulated to our members by various disgruntled former FReepers:

Subject: The Future of Our Free Republic

Dear Fellow Free Republic Member,

Many of us at Free Republic are distressed by the extraordinary level of censorship that has been so obviously going on. It is very obvious that individual posts, entire threads, and the entire work of members who have been highly regarded are disappearing into a Memory Hole.

Scores of us have organized an e-mail network that is independent of the communication controls presently, and sadly, being used at our Free Republic. We have carefully documented the unmistakeable evidence that most of the posts, threads, and posters that are vaporized completely are overwhelmingly targeted for their political stance on the Right. These are not Leftwingers. These are not even Middle-of-the-Roaders. These are not disruptors. These are not foul-mouthed delinquents. These are fellow patriots on the Right who disagree with the controllers of FR on specific issues that are now hotly debated by the Right. We have documented that FR will parade before you, as if to hide all of the great posters whose work has been destroyed, a straw-man delinquent that has been banned. This is deceptive.

Treating these fellow patriots on the Right so shabbily is not right. As shabbily as those banned into the Memory Hole are being treated, the most shabbily treated of all are all of the good folks on Free Republic themselves. We came here for honest debate. Free Republic advertised itself as a Forum for honest debate. Without that honest debate...everything at Free Republic becomes shabby.

We can do much better. As a measure of how intense the simmering feelings have gotten among members on this unjustifiable use of deleting, censoring, and banning please link to the following thread. You will notice that one simple and sincere plea from one of our finest members has spontaneously touched off a prairie fire of approximately 500 posts in a mere 18 hours. If it isn't Memory Holed this thread may shoot into the thousands.

If you would like to receive anonymous updates of information concerning the hundreds of Freepers who have networked via e-mail to restore the wonderful honest debate to Free Republic, just drop an e-mail of just one or two words if you like for extreme brevity to:

StopCensoringUs@hotmail.com

And, here's that link back to the snowballing thread at FR:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/704701/posts

Thank you so much for giving your thought to this vital matter for our Internet home.

Sincerely, StopCensoringUs@hotmail.com

[American Preservative]

FYI ping.

[Freedom2specul8]

Knew something was up -- just wasn't sure what it was for sure! Now maybe some Freepers will see the light and realize they have been following the wrong people! It is one thing to disagree with policy, but to spew so much hatred and venom seemed over the top! Now maybe we can all start working together toward the goal of Taking Back the Senate and Keeping the House in the Fall. Knew something was wrong! You have cleared it up beautifully!

Glad I found your post! I was discussing the increasing amount of personal attacks with someone else..and we concluded that it "sounds like clintonese, it's the finger pointing, spreading lies and tarnishing the reputation of perceived enemies, creating the impression that freedom fighters ARE the real enemies, thinking all who disagree with them is the enemy." It didn't dawn on us that it could be due to infiltration..

[NMC EXP]

"Yes, I have, but it's irrelevant. The actual decision rests with the moderator, and not with me."

The decision rests with a moderator after the abuse button is hit.

"That's a good approach, up to the point where there's so much crap around, there's noplace left to step."

In the meat world that could be true. As I see it, it can happen in the cyber world only in an individuals mind. You have the choice of (a) The "abuse" button, or (b) "scroll down".

Regards

J.R.

[beowolf]

So much for summary censorship.

Don't be silly. This is Jim's thread...moderators may comment, but not moderate...

These are 'free discussion threads', and amazingly, most people tend to be reasonably polite on them and there is rarely any need for moderation.

I don't know what that really tells us, other than if you keep the discussion off of 'hot button' issues' most people can be civil....:-)

[Admin Moderator]

A server glitch that affected many threads (if you were Freeping anywhere else today you would have noticed) is quite different than anyone pulling any comments.

We encountered some data corruption on the server. Whatever was posted wasn't pulled, it is just plain gone. Here is what I see on those.

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Thanks, AM

[deport]

To be honest in the past had felt the moderator was pulling the trigger way too fast on some innoxiously post and posters … and was left wondering “what the hell did they do?” but didn’t even think of a past posts or concurrent alt posts under a different screen names

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Check this one for what some will do to keep registered.

http://www.freerepublic.com/fo cus/news/705257/posts?page=829 #829

[Timesink]

the entire Letter is posted on Democratic underground ...

Heh, it's so cute to see them think this is actually a serious problem for us. I'll bet they ban more newbies in an hour than FR does in a day.

[OWK]

Well, for one thing, have you ever heard of the first amendment? That's the one that guarantees the right to freedom of religion. You remember that one. The one the athiests have been laboring overtime for the last several decades to nullify. Doing a bang up job too. And you wonder why some people resent your kind?

C'mon Jim... sure there are atheistic idiots who would attempt to employ the power of state to subjugate the religious faith of others, just as there are religious zealots who would attempt to employ the power of state to subjugate the religious faith of others.

But that doesn't make all atheists idiots, nor all religious folk zealots.

This "your kind" hyper-emotionalism is beneath you.

[Phil V.]

Only those who support the unmitigated blood-lust or who are quick to jump to conclusions assumed otherwise.

Sorry for the leap to a false conclusion. There simply are too many "real" deplorable and blasphemous comments to decipher absent checking on each and every poster's background. I goofed. But I do not casually goof. There simply are too any "Legit" outrages.

[dennisw]

I agree with you. One forum I really don't know how to get around is slashdot. That's very nested I think...

[freedomcrusader]

That also helps explain why some of my posts on other threads at about the same time were removed. Thanks.

[maxwell]

BWAHAHA!!! How's about redneck, bro...

Subjeck: Th' Future of Our Free Republic

Dear Feller Free Republic Member,

Menny of us at Free Republic is distressed by th' extryo'dinary level of censo'ship thet has been so obviously gwine on, as enny fool kin plainly see. It is mighty obvious thet indivijool posts, intire threads, an' th' entire wawk of members who haf been highly regarded is disappearin' into a Memo'y Hole. Sco'es of us haf o'ganized an e-mail netwawk thet is independent of th' communicashun corntrols presently, an' sadly, bein' used at our Free Republic. We haf carefully docoomnted th' unmistakeable evidence thet most of th' posts, threads, an' posters thet is vapo'ized completely is ovahwhelmin'ly targited fo' their political stance on the Right. These is not Lef'wingers. These is not even Middle-of-the-Roaders. These are not disruppo's. These is not foul-mouthed delinquents. These is feller patriots on the Right who disagree wif th' controllers of FR on specific issues thet is now hotly debated by th' Right.
We haf docoomnted thet FR will pareede befo'e yo', as eff'n t'hide all of th' great posters whose wawk has been destroyed, a straw-man delinquent thet has been banned, cuss it all t' tarnation. This hyar is deceppive. Treatin' these feller patriots on th' Right so shabbily is not right. As shabbily as them banned into th' Memo'y Hole is bein' treated, the dawgoned-est shabbily treated of all is all of th' fine folks on Free Republic themselves. We came hyar fo' honess debate. Free Republic advahtised itse'f as a Fo'um fo' honess debate. Wifout thet honest debate...ev'rythin' at Free Republic becomes shabby. We kin does much better. As a measure of how intense th' simmerin' feelin's haf gotten among members on this hyar unjestifiable use of deletin', censo'in', an' bannin' please link t'th' follerin' thread, cuss it all t' tarnation. Yo' will notice thet one simple an' sinsyar plea fum one of our finess members has spontaneously touched off a prairie fire of approximately 500 posts in a mere 18 hours. Eff'n it ain't Memo'y Holed this hyar thread may shoot into th' thousan's.
Eff'n yo''d like t'receive anonymous updates of info'mashun corncernin' th' hundreds of Freepers who haf netwawked via e-mail t'resto'e th' wonnerful honess debate to Free Republic, jest drop an e-mail of jest one o' two wo'ds eff'n yo' like fo' extreme brevity to: StopCenso'in'Us@hotmail, ah reckon.com An', hyar's thet link back t'th' snowballin' thread at FR: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/noos/704701/posts Thank yo' so much fo' givin' yer thunk t'this vital matter fo' our Internet home.

Sinsyarly, StopCenso'in'Us@hotmail, ah reckon.com

[Timesink]

Do you think Bush is a conservative he is spending like a drunken sailor and it seems like the Saudis run his foreign policy?

Yes. I understand and accept that it is a physical impossibility for any president to achieve 100% party (or ideology) platform perfection, especially when their party is not in total control of Congress. Sometimes you have to give a little, sometimes you have to think strategically months ahead of time and play tactically on-the-fly. (Example: I don't care about the steel tariff thing if it ends up helping us win races in certain states that give us control of the Senate. The ends justify the means.)

And yes, believe it or not, sometimes two intelligent people can disagree about whether a particular policy conforms to conservative principles.

[Jim Robinson]

Yeah it does.

[Ratatoskr]

The only way for him to know which things were asked to be reviewed is to go through each of them and see if there was a question or a request in it. It is pretty clear to me he reviews just about everything.

Hahaha...what an incoherent load of bollocks. The question was whether Jim approves of every cut, slice and mystery hole the moderators make. This curiously passive gibberish about "which things were asked to be reviewed" is an invention of your own.

Some are working very hard at giving that impression.

Giving what impression? I was here then. I'm here now. You guys cut more than Jim did by...lots and lots.

[maxwell]

What flavor whine goes with their cheesy complaints?

Aw they need some whine cooler, Bob...

[dennisw]

No they're not. Only Jews and Christian Zionists are running around peddling that notion. They want the U.S. to kill all of the billion + Muslims and Arabs. These people call for genocide on a daily basis.

Stop spending so much time in the sun cause your brain is getting fried. Here's the whopping lie you came up with yesterday:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/704667/posts

To: Alouette
No, only those who persistently make idiotic comparisons of the Israelis to the nazis, and who make the excuse:***

What the Jews did to Jenin is exactly what the Nazis did to the Warsaw Ghetto, so those sorts of comparisons are quite close to the mark.

14 posted on 6/23/02 6:20 PM Eastern by The Documentary Lady
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[OWK]

All atheists are idiots, and all religious folk are zealots?

[hellinahandcart]

What the Jews did to Jenin is exactly what the Nazis did to the Warsaw Ghetto

Oh no. Don't tell me the Nazis set sneakers on fire too...