Ok, ok so that one is just a paintball gun, but the next one will kill :)
Posted on 06/23/2002 5:51:08 PM PDT by AM2000
The head of the US Senate intelligence committee on Sunday said Washington believes Osama bin Laden is hiding out in western Pakistan, hours after an Al-Qaeda spokesman said bin Laden is alive and warned the United States to "fasten its seat belt" for more attacks.
"Our best intelligence estimate continues to be that he is alive and probably someplace in those tribal areas on the western side of Pakistan," Senator Bob Graham told Fox television.
Earlier on Sunday, Suleiman Abu Ghaith -- a spokesman for bin Laden's Al-Qaeda network, which has been blamed for the September 11 attacks on US landmarks -- told Qatar-based Al-Jazeera television that bin Laden and his network were alive and well and that "America must prepare itself and fasten its seat belt."
Reacting to the news, Graham, a Florida Democrat, said that "what we have seen is a disturbing pattern of the reformulation of al-Qaeda and their renewed willingness and capability to conduct terrorist attacks."
He pointed particularly to the April 11 attack on a synagogue in Djerba, Tunisia.
"The attack against a Jewish synagogue in Tunisia has now been linked to Al-Qaeda. The fact that there was a propane truck used in the destruction of the synagogue in Tunisia sent a signal that this was a new form of terrorist attack which Al-Qaeda had perfected," Graham said.
The attack killed 19 people, including 14 German tourists.
Be a cold day in Hades before Gramn gets his special commititee.
Suleiman Abu Ghaith -- a spokesman for bin Laden's Al-Qaeda network......whose forehead is painted with a little red dot, whose toothbrush is bugged, whose house has walls built with C-4, who stars in a 24/7 "real life" tv show, broadcast from Langley, VA by a dedicated satelite...
This man has more strings than a puppet... or wait, he is a puppet.
Good thing our dear Senator Graham can dance, too.
You're getting your ethnic groups all mixed up. The red dot on the forehead is a Hindu thing. Hindus and Muslims have been at loggerheads for centuries; Hindus are one the biggest targets of Islamic terrorism, not the perpetrators.
But of course, I get the impression that you're the type that doesn't let a few facts get in the way of your rancid stereotypes.
Breath in, breath out. Breath in, breath out.
Now, re-read my post. The dot "painted" on his forehead was not put there by a Buddha. Well, maybe, but if so, he's using CIA-approved equipment.
Breathe on.
What happened to Osama bin Laden?
To refresh memories on events in Afghanistan, November 2001, Taliban Timeline:
Nov. 9 Northern Alliance forces, with help of U.S. air support, take cities of Mazar-i-Sharif and Taloqan from the Taliban.
Nov. 11 Three international journalists are killed near Taloqan in a Taliban ambush.
Nov. 12 Northern Alliance forces capture Herat and advance toward Kabul.
Nov. 13 Northern Alliance enters Kabul. The Taliban fall back from Kandahar. There are reports of lawlessness from Mazar-i-Sharif.
Nov. 15 The eight foreign aid workers held since August are freed as the Taliban flees Kandahar.
Nov. 21 Taliban commanders in the city of Kunduz plan to meet with Northern Alliance leaders to negotiate a surrender. The Taliban in Kandahar announce they will continue to fight and claim to still control the provinces of Kandahar, Helmand, Oruzgan, Zabol, and part of Ghazni province. The Taliban deny knowing the location of Osama bin Laden.
Nov. 24 The Taliban surrender Kunduz.
Nov. 25 U.S. special forces and air strikes help subdue a prison revolt in Mazar-i-Sharif. The prison held several hundred Taliban and al-Qaeda fighters, many of them foreign, who had surrendered in Kunduz. The uprising lasts three days. A CIA agent, about 30 Northern Alliance soldiers, and more than 500 Taliban prisoners are killed.
Nov. 25 Hundreds of marines land near Kandahar to combat Taliban and al-Qaeda forces. This is the first major incursion of U.S. ground troops in Afghanistan.
Nov. 27 Afghan leaders meet with UN representatives in Bonn, Germany, to work out guidelines for a post-Taliban government. Afghan leaders represent 4 factions: the Northern Alliance; the "Rome Group," representing former Afghan King Mohammad Zahir Shah; the "Peshawar Group," representing Afghan refugees in Pakistan; and the "Cyprus Group," representing an Iranian-backed group of Afghan exiles.
Nov. 29 U.S. continues airstrikes on Kandahar. Mullah Omar reportedly tells the remaining Taliban forces to "fight to the death." Meanwhile, the Northern Alliance agrees to the presence of international peacekeeping forces.
In The Wall Street Journal / WSJ.com / Opinion Journal, by Tunku Varadarajan, November 28, 2001:
Rescuing the Enemy
Yes, Pakistan evacuated men from Kunduz. Why'd the U.S. let them?
BY TUNKU VARADARAJAN
Wednesday, November 28, 2001 12:01 a.m. ESTLast Thursday the Indian press carried reports that two helicopters of the Pakistani air force had landed in the heart of Kunduz--an Afghan town then under siege by the Northern Alliance, but still under Taliban control--and "flew out soon after carrying two chopper loads of personnel." These included two brigadiers of the Pakistani army. Two days later, the Indian press again carried reports, based on information supplied by Indian intelligence, that Pakistan's air force had "flown several missions since Sunday to evacuate top Pakistani military commanders."
When I read these stories, I asked myself: What on earth is going on here?
Of course, it occurred to me that the story could have been a bit of misinformation, perhaps a mischievous "feed" to journalists by Indian intelligence officers keen to stir things up against Pakistan. After all, the allegation was a serious one. Pakistan, a much-vaunted U.S. ally in the war against terrorism, stood accused of rescuing fighters who were on the side of the Taliban and al Qaeda, the very groups against which the U.S. is waging war. And what is more, these fighters were not freelance hotheads from Islamic seminaries in Pakistan--though, goodness knows, there's no shortage of those--but actual members of the Pakistani armed forces. In other words, these were men with ranks and commissions, men in line for Pakistani state pensions, disciplined, professional men who would be unlikely so much as to say "boo" to a goose without orders from above.
If these reports were true, I was entirely justified, was I not, in asking, What on earth is going on here?
On Saturday, the same day as the second Indian report, the New York Times ran a story that caught my eye. "Pakistanis Again Said to Evacuate Allies of Taliban," said the headline over a report filed, from a place called Bangi, near Kunduz, by Dexter Filkins and Carlotta Gall. They told of eyewitness accounts by Northern Alliance soldiers "that Pakistani airplanes had once again flown into the encircled city of Kunduz to evacuate Pakistanis who have been fighting alongside Afghan Taliban forces trapped there." The Times reported that earlier in the week, "alliance officials said they had been told by a Taliban leader in Kunduz that at least three Pakistani Air Force planes had landed in recent days on similar missions."
Yesterday, in a conversation with a highly placed diplomat from the region, I learned enough to be able to assert that all these reports are entirely correct. Pakistani air force helicopters and transport craft did, indeed, ferry out nearly 200 regular men and officers of the Pakistan army--including two brigadiers. A large number of ex-servicemen were also evacuated in this manner. According to the diplomat, "this could not have been done without the specific approval and connivance of the Bush administration." The U.S. controls the skies over Kunduz, and it is unlikely that Pakistani craft would have flown into the zone without attracting U.S. attention.
This affair raises intriguing, and worrying, questions. First: What were these Pakistani soldiers doing in Kunduz? And second, why did the U.S. choose to turn a blind eye to their rescue?
In answer to the first question it should be pointed out that prior to the U.S. campaign in Afghanistan, there were thousands of Pakistani troops in that country. Most were spirited out in the days before the bombing began, days in which, one will recall, Gen. Pervez Musharraf of Pakistan spent most of his time urging restraint, delays, etc., all as a smokescreen for a complicated troop withdrawal from Afghanistan.
They couldn't be flown out en masse, for that would have looked ugly, and raised ugly questions about Pakistan's role in the Taliban and al Qaeda networks; instead, they had to be siphoned out overland, as it were, as unobtrusively as possible. Small garrisons were left behind--at Mazar-e-Sharif and Kunduz--in the belief that the war would end rather differently, and not with the kind of rout that we have seen. Gen. Musharraf, you will also recall, spent much energy, earlier in the campaign, urging the U.S. not to attack the Taliban frontline in the country's north. Why? Because he had troops there, alongside the Taliban, troops he hoped would hold the line for the Pakistan-Taliban axis in any postbellum settlement.
Why did the U.S. let Gen. Musharraf rescue his troops, only days after Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld had rebuffed the general's pleas for safe passage out of Kunduz for Pakistani fighters trapped there? There are no easy answers, only uncomfortable ones. My guess is that Secretary of State Colin Powell, with whom the Pakistani dictator has developed an unseemly and unctuous rapport, called in all his chips on this one. The evasiveness of U.S. top brass on the subject suggests they are embarrassed over the affair. How could they not be? Weren't the men the Pakistanis rescued the very men this country is at war with? And weren't these some of the very men Mr. Rumsfeld said had only two choices before them at Kunduz, death or surrender?
One day, when the war in Afghanistan is well and truly done, we will get answers to all these questions. In the meantime, what we are beginning to learn is that if one enlists dubious allies, one runs the high risk of treading knee-deep in--how shall I put it?--foul-smelling organic waste matter.
And as allies go, Gen. Musharraf is as dubious as they get.
Mr. Varadarajan is deputy editorial features editor of The Wall Street Journal. His column appears Tuesdays.
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A guess: These flights, perhaps removed Osama bin Laden to Pakistan?
I often wonder which comes first, the supply or the demand for political sensitivity.
Anyway, if you want a seriously anti-Hindu joke, freepmail me.... the question is why Indian women have that dot on their foreheads...
Ok, ok so that one is just a paintball gun, but the next one will kill :)
Another from the Way Back Macine.
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