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Terrified Show Low scatters
Overgaard and Heber steeped in history
Hotshots lament losing to the 'monster'
Arizonans answer call
No respite from heavy smoke
Animals displaced by fire find creature comforts in Holbrook
Evacuated kids camp threatened by inferno
Federal fire agencies 'on the same page'
SRP, APS watch lines to Valley
1 posted on 06/23/2002 2:46:41 PM PDT by uglybiker
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To: uglybiker
Updatesw and links to pics at:

www.pinetoplakesidechamber.com

2 posted on 06/23/2002 2:53:41 PM PDT by uglybiker
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To: uglybiker
Fire and smoke touch down on the edge of Show Low, Ariz., Sunday, June 23, 2002 in Show Low, Ariz. What started out as a small fire on Tuesday has grown into a 200,00 acre inferno forcing the evacuation of over 7,000 people from numerous

3 posted on 06/23/2002 2:54:34 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: uglybiker
God bless Bob Gates.

Thanks for the links.

6 posted on 06/23/2002 3:01:45 PM PDT by keri
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To: uglybiker
Map of area
8 posted on 06/23/2002 3:05:19 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: uglybiker
You can see the smoke in this animated satellite image.
10 posted on 06/23/2002 3:17:06 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: uglybiker
From PBS' NOVA website.........

Fire Wars

12 posted on 06/23/2002 3:49:20 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: uglybiker
Thanks for the post. As a native of Arizona, now living in Oregon the following quote really hit hom:

"Where's their damn spotted owl now?"

13 posted on 06/23/2002 3:50:50 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: uglybiker
National Fire Maps
17 posted on 06/23/2002 4:02:16 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: uglybiker
Why not drop a few daisy cutters at the leading edge? It will blast it back and it is going to destroy whats in its path anyhow.

streaming news update

18 posted on 06/23/2002 4:13:51 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: uglybiker
Map (large file)
20 posted on 06/23/2002 4:17:48 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: uglybiker
There are a lot less trees for the tree-huggers to hug after this. If these forests had been harvested and better managed this and other out of control fires would be a lot less threatening. I don't recall hearing of one tree-hugger volunteering their help during this and other fire
tragedies this year. This nation is in for a lot more of these fires unless forest management returns to rational common sense approaches rather than the politically correct approach of leaving 'nature' alone.
28 posted on 06/23/2002 4:43:28 PM PDT by supportthenra
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To: Prodigal Daughter; Thinkin' Gal; mancini; babylonian; ex-Texan; Sir Gawain; Zad; xJones; ...
>June **23,** 2002

This is not good.  23 = biblical number of Death.

>Fire Chief Ben Owens said everybody who wanted to leave town is gone. As for the others, "Maybe today when we're out there, we'll ask those people for their next of kin."

"Remember Lot's wife" by J.C. Ryle.  See also, Pr 29:1 He, that being often reproved hardeneth his neck, shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy.

>Gov. Jane Hull on Sunday said the fires have been described as "a great train coming toward us."

With its own headlights.

>She added, "It is not in control."

God is in control.  He gives each one according to their works, starts judgment at the house of God and the place is currently in the kiln.  Praise God that He can distinguish the righteous from the wicked.  That means a Lot!  Why do the righteous run?  We see why.  The fire and the flood try each man's works to see what's inside.  Lord, uphold the righteous!  May they buy gold tried in the fire.  Rev 3.

>Wind gusts, a longstanding drought, bone-dry trees and vegetation and rough terrain have conspired to create what fire officials describe as an out-of-control monster. The fire dragon has breathed flames from treetop to treetop...

The writer left out "falling into the hands of an angry God."  Today would be a good day to repent.  We of course have to remember that Repentance is not up for grabs any time one wants it; that would put man in control.  God gives it (Ac 5:31; 2Ti 2:25) when one seeks Him with a whole heart, not a divided heart, and puts the Lord first, not trying to add Him in with one's other gods of Mammon, Hedonism, Greed, Sex, Materialism and the like.  He can also not give Repentance.  See Will you inherit Psalm 91 or Proverbs 1:20-33? -- Time is short.

Rodeo = round-up.

rodeo (ro´dê-o´, ro-dâ´o) noun
plural rodeos
1. A public competition or exhibition in which skills such as riding broncos or roping calves are displayed.
2. A cattle roundup.
3. An enclosure for keeping cattle that have been rounded up.
[Spanish, corral, rodeo, from rodear, to surround, from rueda, wheel, from Latin rota.]

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition copyright © 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic version licensed from InfoSoft International, Inc. All rights reserved.


44 posted on 06/23/2002 5:41:25 PM PDT by 2sheep
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To: uglybiker
Am wondering if politics is creating reluctance to issue forth an adequate National Guard response.

SHOW LOW, Arizona (CNN) :"Hull and U.S. Forest Service chief Dale Bosworth, visiting the site, said the devastating fire should be a wake-up call to environmentalists and governments to change the way they manage the nation's forests. "

Also, the story of the colorado ranger-womans' 'love letter' starting a fire seems awfully contrived, begging the question: Is she a decoy FEMA is using to cover up public awareness of an investigation that these fires are potential terrorist activity?

One of my thoughts after 9-11 was that terrorism needs no intricate methodology if you are willing to sacrifice some pizzazz - you could wreak havoc with simple arson or random urban murder for a very long time before being stopped.

Question Sunday on CSPAN Wash. Journal was "Are the terrorist warnings working? How should they be different?"

One caller, a 'simple-folk' kinda guy, made an excellent case for the 'lack of effect or overvalue of effect' of the warnings compared to the actual risk or cost of a successful attack-

"The keyword is TERROR here"

"You can't stop crazy people, whats gunna happen is gunna happen."

So yes, I do think America needs educating on how to emotionally cope with the warnings, and I do think the Media are forced to take on a bedside manner of paranoia with the public because they do not know how to act otherwise without appearing to downplay the seriousness of the WOT.

Catch-22.

47 posted on 06/23/2002 7:32:45 PM PDT by mindprism.com
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To: McLynnan
This thread. Follow the links, there's good info on here.
59 posted on 06/23/2002 9:09:58 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: uglybiker
But thanks to the enviromentalists, the trees were all still there to burn.
78 posted on 06/24/2002 9:22:31 AM PDT by philetus
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To: SierraWasp; Grampa Dave
We need a little humor break here. This fire is being blamed on the enviro-mentals. There os also note the deafening silence from the Sierra Club, et al.

Would you be so kind to give us a new name for the Sierra Club? Merci

105 posted on 06/24/2002 5:19:58 PM PDT by Angelique
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To: uglybiker
All this destruction, and it's only June 26th. &^(
155 posted on 06/25/2002 1:29:41 PM PDT by SGCOS
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To: uglybiker
We are still praying for you folks!
157 posted on 06/27/2002 11:31:05 AM PDT by SGCOS
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