[CLRGuy]

Chris Sells is DA MAN! I was talking to him just this weekend about zero deployment, I'm writing an application right now that uses this.

There are few advantages to being able to host the application directly in the browser. Winform applicaitons written in this way are a much more powerful paradigm as they allow users to configure the level of trust that they want to give the application developer, instead of locking everybody into a level that allows you to do little that is useful.

I would submit that there is nothing that a java applet can do (beside cross platform at the moment) that can't be done better with a winform, for that reason I don't see microsoft in a rush to make an "applet", although they could. The browser wars are over.. and the browser will largely become obsolete in the near future with webservices and remoting allowing for a much more robust applicaiton platform.

And Harr, I sign an NDA on almost every project I work on, I don't go touting off about what I do for a reason, not because I want to sound cool. You ignore the fact that there have been > 20 above people cite examples of places where there are large .NET applicaitons in production.

Oh.. and I know Ari Bixhorn.. Ari Bixhorn ownz joo!

[Dominic Harr]

You ignore the fact that there have been > 20 above people cite examples of places where there are large .NET applicaitons in production.

Where? Not here in this thread, and not in that other thread where that other fellow specifically asked for such testimonials. No, there hasn't been a single one. That's why we keep asking. The only 'case studies' we can find are the ones on MS's site, and they give no details what-so-ever. They're little more than press releases, and largely just on small tools.

And if you think that a Windows-only downloaded 'WinForm' is the equivilant of an applet, then it only reinforces what I think. The 'Windows-only' problem alone kills the idea of building an internet solution with a WinForm. That kills me, 'Windows-only' guys see no problem with a 'Windows-only' web solution. While the market rejects the idea entirely.

You, too, seem far more 'salesman' than developer. I signed an NDA. I don't share critical business info. We're not talking about critical business data.

You're hiding even the simplest implementation details. The stuff that is *not* in any way sensitive. The stuff you'd *have* to be evangelizing if .NET works.

You sound like a salesman. "It works, trust me! I just can't show you anything or give you any details!"

Well MS has burned too many people in the past. Their past solutions are widely known for being poor quality and far from the 'best'. So don't be surprised if the world outside the walls of Redmond react very differently than you expect.