[Dominic Harr]

Read Mr. Jeeves's post, and you'll see exactly why no one trusts the 'case studies' on MS's web page.

He billed that as a success for .NET. Upon further discussion, it turned out he could have done it better, faster and cheaper in Java, but was not allowed to "because they are an MS-only shop". And you know what an "MS-only shop" is -- one that is on one of MS's programs that rewards shops for only using MS techs, even when better solutions are out there.

They're literally having to force developers to use this stuff.

I ask one more time -- do you know of any real-world developers who have successfully deployed a large-scale production system?

[Bush2000]

Upon further discussion, it turned out he could have done it better, faster and cheaper in Java

A. It would have taken him longer.
B. It would have been more costly.
C. There's no proof that it would have been any more scalable or robust under Java.