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To: ArneFufkin
he's a top 10% guy in the World at his profession.

??????In an 11 year carreer, he only won 13 more games than he lost (W:128 , L:115 ). Am I missing something??

326 posted on 06/22/2002 7:45:17 PM PDT by waterstraat
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To: waterstraat
he only won 13 more games than he lost (W:128 , L:115 ). Am I missing something??

In general......a knowledge of baseball.
In particular....a knowledge of Coors Field.

330 posted on 06/22/2002 7:53:08 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: waterstraat
Let's see...
* 3-Time All Star
* 19 game winner
* 20 game winner
* Pitched a no hitter

What would you consider top 10%?
353 posted on 06/22/2002 9:09:52 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: waterstraat
??????In an 11 year carreer, he only won 13 more games than he lost (W:128 , L:115 ). Am I missing something??

Why don't you and Valerie crunch numbers and share insights.

365 posted on 06/22/2002 9:34:19 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: waterstraat
he's a top 10% guy in the World at his profession.

??????In an 11 year carreer, he only won 13 more games than he lost (W:128 , L:115 ). Am I missing something??

A three-time All-Star who once threw a no-hitter, Kile was 5-4 with a 3.72 ERA during his 12th major league season and third with St. Louis. One of his best seasons came with the Cardinals in 2000, when he went 20-9 with a 3.91 ERA. That was the first time in fifteen years that a Cardinal pitcher had won 20 games.

His overall stats might not look so hot because his curve ball was pretty ineffective when he was in Denver playing for the Rockies. His career with the Cardinals was much different. He lead the team to post season play two years in a row. He was a mentor to Matt Morris who is the hottest pitcher the Cardinals have right now. Just this past Tuesday night his victory put the Cardinals in first place in our division.

367 posted on 06/22/2002 9:36:56 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: waterstraat
he's a top 10% guy in the World at his profession.

??????In an 11 year carreer, he only won 13 more games than he lost (W:128 , L:115 ). Am I missing something??

That's distorted by his two disastrous seasons in Colorado, where he discovered his curve ball couldn't curve in the thin Rockies air. But then he's not the first pitcher to come to grief in Denver.

Kile is a two time All Star who finished fifth twice in Cy Young balloting, with a 20 win season and a no-hitter to his credit. Not many pitchers can claim as much.

He's clearly one of the best starting pitchers in the game. Not quite a Big Unit or a Rocket, but not far below, either.

In any case, if you factor in pro baseball leagues worldwide then there's no question he's one of the very, very best pitchers in the world.

More than that, however,he was one of the few genuinely "good guys" in the game.

It's a sad day for baseball and for St. Louis. But nothing near as sad as for his family.

400 posted on 06/23/2002 7:53:45 AM PDT by The Iguana
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