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It's Here...The Federal ID card
The Idaho Observer ^ | 6/21/02 | Hari Heath

Posted on 06/21/2002 2:42:31 PM PDT by freeeee

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To: Sabertooth
We are at WAR!

You're either with us or with the terrorists.

You better get with the program, it's for the saftey of the children. /sarcasm
161 posted on 06/22/2002 7:18:04 AM PDT by Gore_ War_ Vet
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To: freeeee
Where do the feds get the power to make demands of the state's driver's licenses?
162 posted on 06/22/2002 7:48:51 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican
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To: Coleus
"First it will be your religion, then whether or not you are a gun owner, if one is pro life, etc. The amount of information on these cards is endless.. "

Excellent point.

163 posted on 06/22/2002 7:50:38 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican
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To: philman_36
The first is a favorite. The second is new but is of concern.... This NWO/WTO/UN arrangement seems to be completely out of control and it's just a matter of time before it's ends become apparent. How far are they willing to go
164 posted on 06/22/2002 8:19:04 AM PDT by steve50
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To: philman_36
Well, a voluntary, private system to track children doesn't strike me personally as the Fourth Reich.
165 posted on 06/22/2002 9:18:38 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Richard Kimball
Don't waste your time on _Jim. He's a self styled Debunker who works these forums in order to attempt to neutralize any information that contradicts his permanent head-in-the-sand status, stuck somewhere in the Eisenhower administration.

Of course, anyone who can think logically realizes that like all computer based technology, this one, though not perfected now will improve rapidly with time. It ain't the now that's worrysome, it's the 10 years down the road.

166 posted on 06/22/2002 9:19:00 AM PDT by Free Vulcan
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To: metesky
It took them 18 years to catch up with me and I paid a $15.00 fine for driving without. (Long story)

Quick question: how did you obtain auto insurance without a DL#? Just curious as I'm afraid driving without a DL may become a necessity for many of us who refuse to knuckle under and be good little comrades.

167 posted on 06/22/2002 10:35:34 AM PDT by KentuckyWoman
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To: Southside_bubba
What if, to "reduce the number of cards you need to carry" and to "make your shopping experience more joyfull" they start taking these national ID cards.

Something similar is already being done. A grocery store outside of Seattle and the KROGER in a town in Texas (sorry, can't remember which one right now) are ALREADY using people's fingerprints in lieu of money and other ids. Scary part? People have been lining up to register their bank accounts, credit cards and personal information because "it's SOOO convenient". The sheople will believe anything that anybody tells them if it doesn't require thinking!!

168 posted on 06/22/2002 10:41:19 AM PDT by KentuckyWoman
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To: KentuckyWoman
Offhand, I'd say that you could either register the car in someone else's name or use your computer to make up a complete set of papers (using some real ones for comparison), including inspection stickers and decals for the plates.

Just a guess though.
;O)
169 posted on 06/22/2002 11:18:35 AM PDT by metesky
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To: freeeee; ALOHA RONNIE; goldilucky; Carl/NewsMax; 4Freedom; Freedom'sWorthIt
Great find, freeee! I was alerted to this article wia www.michaelbunker.com 's email loop, and came immediately to FR to see if it had been posted.

Yep! Posted!

170 posted on 06/22/2002 11:30:15 AM PDT by Joy Angela
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To: lowbridge
Freedom isn't free?
171 posted on 06/22/2002 11:31:03 AM PDT by Joy Angela
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To: Ole Okie
Naw, the mark of the beast has got to be in your very forehead or in your hand (Rev 14:9), not your billfold.

The mark of the beast can be in your "forehead" if you don't question evil, indulge in sinful thoughts and if you accept the world's lies instead of seeking God's Truth.

The mark of the beast can also be in your "right hand" if you accept money (as in cross my palm with silver!) that is tainted by wicked intent or sell out on your principals for cash and profit!

The Bible also says that those who have God's Mark in their Forehead will be spared.

Is the MARK figurative or literal?

Time will tell!

172 posted on 06/22/2002 11:48:40 AM PDT by Joy Angela
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To: weikel
I never read 1984, and I don't know what a telescreen is.
173 posted on 06/22/2002 12:51:18 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: weikel
I know you are only interested in one person's reply, but I would like to reply.

God gives everyone a free gift, eternal life. You either accept his gift, or you don't accept his gift. God doesn't force anyone to accept his free gift.

I think that is a pretty loving God.

174 posted on 06/22/2002 12:54:45 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: luckystarmom
"God doesn't force anyone to accept his free gift"

Fair enough..but some believers dont seem to realize..refusing the mark means DEATH. Instant Death. Probably by the most painful way possible. This of course, when your unbelieving relatives are doing EVERYTHINg in their power to persuade you to take it. I wonder..would you publicly denounce Christ if it would save your mom and dad, or children, from being thrown to the Lions in the arena?

175 posted on 06/22/2002 12:58:41 PM PDT by Windsong
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To: Joy Angela
It is easy to see what is coming. People who do not think the Bible is relevant to their lives need only to read the dialy newspapers and then the Bible to see the Bible is the eternal Word of God. (By the way, no knowledgeable Christian will accept "the mark of the beast" and every God-hater in the world will be wanting to impose it on us).

Corrie Ten Boom put it this way:

"Today you can read all the signs of the times, not only in the Bible but also in the newspapers. Our generation will live when these things happen, when the Lord comes. He is coming very soon."

She wrote this 25 years ago. She is now with the Lord, but "our generation" includes us today.

I recommend all of Corrie's books, especially her little devotional book, called "Each New Day."

She writes: "I believe that you who read this book can be ready for Jesus' coming. Why? Because all that had to be done was done on the cross.

Her prayers:

"We look forward to your coming, Lord, although we know we will have hard times before we see You." and "Thank you, Lord, that Ephesians 1 reveals to us that You have allowed us to know the secret of Your plan, that You purpose in Your sovereign will that all human history shall be consummated in Christ, and that everything that exists in heaven and earth shall find its perfection and fulfillment in you."

The hard times are coming - fast. Each of us is advised to "be ready" for what lies ahead. The best way I know to prepare is to to spend time in prayer. Even amidst the trials that are coming on the world, God is at work and will lead each of us through as we are yielded to His will and plan, not our own.

This ID card is just one sign of what is to come. Of course we must oppose it with all our might....we must. But, those who wish to enslave us will not stop until it is done....or there is bloody resistance. Either way, it's hardship ahead for us all - all who love freedom and for those who love God. The only thing I can do right now is pray - and write.

176 posted on 06/22/2002 1:15:27 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: B.R. Burton
Thanks mucho. I'll check these out.
177 posted on 06/22/2002 1:23:58 PM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: Freedom4US
The issue with this is that if the children are tracked, they will continue to be tracked as adults. Young people today are already being conditioned to expect absolutely no right to security in their persons and their property. Go to any high school in a city of over 50,000. Armed guards at the doors, locker and car searches, at many students are required to carry clear plastic back packs to make it easier to see what's inside.

The government seems intent on allowing the lawless to do what they will, and then using that lawlessness to remove the basic freedoms United States citizens used to enjoy.

How many of these kidnapped kids were taken by first offenders? Darned few. However, if I take a guy who's already committed numerous crimes and turn him loose on a playground, chances are a kid will turn up missing. If, instead of putting him someplace where he can't do that again, I continue to allow him to prey on children, I then have a perfect excuse to tag the children to keep them safe.

Would also mention that serial kidnappers like McDuff and Dahmers are pretty rare. The skyrocketing number of children "disappearing" is caused by the skyrocketing divorce and out of wedlock births, and one parent taking the kid from the other.

However, the fact that so many are willing to accept these types of pins "for the children" shows how it will be accepted. Same tactic is used on abortion. Most Americans oppose abortion except in cases of rape, incest, and to save the life of the mother, which makes up less than two percent of all abortions. Whenever the argument is brought up, though, those become 80% of what's being talked about. The reason they want to track kids is so the people in power can, by the time this generation is grown, throw a tracking device on anyone they want. If they really cared about the kidnapping and murder of young children, they'd execute the perp the first time he tried it, and the problem would largely go away. Guys do this for the same reason a dog licks himself. They can.

179 posted on 06/22/2002 1:40:19 PM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: _Jim
but CB was established to facilitate 'bidness' ...

Facilitate. Whadyathink would happen if you grab your CB and start doing a version of the Home Shopping Network?

180 posted on 06/22/2002 1:45:13 PM PDT by mindprism.com
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