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To: Jeff Head; OKCSubmariner; Alamo-Girl; rightwing2; JohnHuang2
I had the opportunity of privately talking this Saturday to noted local RINO money-bags George Pillsbury and going into some depths on national threat assessments, and the warnings of the knowledgeable Chinese dissidents, such as Harry Wu. It was apparently too much for him to take in. He said " I don't believe that." So I said to him, why should the American people believe you and a small number of plutocrats over such chinese dissidents who are well-informed, intelligent spokesman for liberty? These are men who have put it on the line and who sincerely fear for our national security? He just stammered with a little bit of fear, saying "I just can't believe that, it's too upsetting."

I said, c'mon George, this would not be the first time you were wrong, but possibly the worst time to be wrong. You can still make a difference, and we can still possibly avoid a world war...I know you have GWB's ear through Andrew Card. He said, "Their tired of hearing my views, telling them to go the center." I said, well look what your reverse-course centrism has gotten you, almost no platform for the President or his party to stand on now...and we are severely disarming while China arms. George then admitted that he was "really shocked when Jim Jeffords bolted the GOP for the democrats..... especially after all the money he had given him." I said to George, we conservatives saw that coming a mile away. You see, ideology...and the power to implement it... does matter to a lot of people more than money. And there are six more Fifth-columnists RINOs, republicans in name only, that we all know harbor the same inclinations as Jeffords. You know who they are as well as I. He did not dispute it. We need to encourage the super-rich folks to break out of their delusory day-dreams that are clearly wishful thinking.

8 posted on 06/21/2002 8:44:11 AM PDT by Paul Ross
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To: Paul Ross
An amazing conversation.

I pray individuals like that, who have the wherewithal to make a big difference can be turned to use that whereithal in a more liberty bolstering way.

God bless you for speaking so directly and succinctly with him.

12 posted on 06/21/2002 11:35:08 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Paul Ross
I had the opportunity of privately talking this Saturday to noted local RINO money-bags George Pillsbury and going into some depths on national threat assessments, and the warnings of the knowledgeable Chinese dissidents, such as Harry Wu. It was apparently too much for him to take in. He said " I don't believe that." So I said to him, why should the American people believe you and a small number of plutocrats over such chinese dissidents who are well-informed, intelligent spokesman for liberty? These are men who have put it on the line and who sincerely fear for our national security? He just stammered with a little bit of fear, saying "I just can't believe that, it's too upsetting."

You summed that up PERFECTLY!!!! BUMP!!!!

Probably the majority of our government people feel this way. They don't care about facts. THEY REFUSE to accept facts.

If you find 50,000 machine guns in a Taliban hideout... and they are from a Chinese manufacturer... noooo, it absolutely WAS NOT the Chinese who sold them...

They are blinded by propaganda.

The real question is, how do they get to be the way they are...

First, they don't speak, read nor write Chinese. Then they go to China, and look at things with 'white eyes'...

In the end it boils down to, "wow, that guy in the hotel was so nice to me, therefore China is a great place..."

They base their whole assertations on nothing more than that...

China is notorious for kissing the right ass. They can terrorize the masses, but when a Congressman comes to visit, they all smile and shake hands...

The people who really get down and dirty and really see Chinese society from a deep level tend to see beyond the bull#$$%^.

The panda huggers are being played, and thats about all it boils down to.

15 posted on 06/21/2002 7:28:58 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: Paul Ross
I met some folks myself... they were almost personally offended at my analysis of China...

The will always counter with 'but I have been to China X number of times... and I never saw that...'

16 posted on 06/21/2002 7:31:56 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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