Panel outlines deal for immigrants to earn state benefits (BARF ALERT!!)

SF Chronicle ^ | 6/1902 | Anastasia Hendrix

[I_Love_My_Husband]

An immigrant -- documented or not -- who agrees to learn English, get a job and pay taxes should receive the same health, education and welfare benefits as any other California citizen, an independent, bipartisan government advisory panel said Tuesday.

[I_Love_My_Husband]

If this was already posted sorry...did a search couldn't find it.

[jimtorr]

Will the good citizens of the State of California rebel at this, if the legislature or governer take it up? One can only dream, most voters seem willing to go along with anything.

[Amerigomag]

In return, participants in the program would agree to learn English, be employed or involved in a job training program, pay taxes and be involved in some sort of civic activity.

Sounds good on paper...right? Wrong!!

This doesn't work because 80% of the illegal aliens are CHILDREN!

Here is California these children consume public resources, return little to our society and statistically are economic failures as adults (never pay back more in taxes than they consumed).

[Lee308]

We believe that if you haven't obeyed the law, you should not be entitled to all the benefits as everybody else," he said

This really frosts me,,, I PAY 27percent in taxes and what bennies do I get,, zilch,, zero,, nadda! Damn,,, I'm ready to move to a free county. I give. Lee308

[SR71A]

most voters seem willing to go along with anything

It also seems the gubernatorial candidates will put up with anything. Simon, the so-called Republican candidate, aired his first campaign commericial in Spanish. What does that tell you about his "determination" to stop the illegal invasion of California? There isn't any!!

I am afraid California is a lost cause. I'm just glad I left my native state 30+ years ago. It breaks my heart to say it, but Aztlan will be a reality within 20 years, with the full connivance of both major U.S. political parties.

[concerned about politics]

Looks like Mexicos goal of taking California back is becomming a sure thing. California may get just what they ask for.

[concerned about politics]

who agrees to learn English, get a job and pay taxes should receive the same health, education and welfare benefits as any other California citizen, an independent, bipartisan government advisory panel said Tuesday.

I hope California is going to pay for all this. Does one states decision make us all pay?

[let freedom sing]

The commission is composed of five members appointed by the governor and four members appointed by the Legislature.

After we change Governors-- it won't seem like such a good idea. /sarcasm

[I_Love_My_Husband]

ping

[Shermy]

"get beyond the left-right divide"

Deceiving. there is a "left-right" unity of interests in many big businesses and guilt liberal factions of the left.

"Driver's licenses"

Very key. Vicente Fox has demanded this specific goal. Reason? To destroy American truckers and transportation workers so businesses can make a few extra bucks for their management. A key "topic" in the immigration agenda. Hurts disproportionately Hispanic and Black Americans.

This is quite a piece of work. Like grouping "documented" and "undocumented" together as one. "...who agrees to learn English, get a job and pay taxes should receive the same health, education and welfare benefits as any other California citizen,"

Very vague. "Agrees." Other meaning - one who takes a job away from an American trying to support a family.

[Shermy]

Little Hoover Commission

925 L Street, Suite 805

Sacramento, California 95814

(916) 445-2125 or (916) 322-7709(fax)

little.hoover@lhc.ca.gov

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Another e-mail attached to each commission member's bio:

jim.mayer@lhc.ca.gov

Here's there website:

Little Hoover Commission

The operating document is "We The People: Helping Newcomers Become Californians". Of course, again, blending illegals with legals.

[Sabertooth]

I hope California is going to pay for all this. Does one states decision make us all pay?

Do nothing while we go off the cliff, and see what happens...

America will follow.

[goldstategop]

This at a time when we're facing a $24 BILLION state deficit?? Hummm, its good to know the Little Hoover Commission Wise Men know how best to make it grow by leaps and bounds. Our tax dollars worth.

[Sabertooth]

Can I see a show of hands.... Who thinks that President Bush would veto a bill like this if it was on his desk?

Sorry, I'm all paws.

[Pelham]

We Californians learned it does no good to rebel against anything dealing with illegal immigration- look at the way Prop 187 was killed in a backroom deal between Gray Davis and Judge Pfaelzer after being passed by over 60% of the vote. And the underhanded dealing of Davis and Pfaelzer was done to the cheers of a large segment of GOP elitists, whom you now see encouraging Dubya in his unrelenting attempt to pass 245(i).

[Pelham]

"Look ma, no hands!"

[Pelham]

But... but... but.... those American truckers really don't want their jobs! They'd rather be... um..... hamburger cooks. And Walmart greeters. And they're lazy. Yeah, that's the ticket!

[Pelham]

I voted for him in the primary. I won't be voting for him in the general. His speech told me he's decided to be part of the problem. Instead of yard signs he ought to just tag the walls with his name.

[Marine Inspector]

It was probably his idea.

[I_Love_My_Husband]

Commissioners

The 13 members come to the Commission from all walks of life and from diverse appointment authorities. Five are appointed by the Governor, two by the Speaker of the Assembly and two by the Senate Rules Committee. Rounding out the membership are two sitting Senators and two sitting Assembly members. By statute no more than five of the nine public members may be from the same party and legislators from each body must be from different parties.
 
 

Michael E. Alpert
Chairman

Stanley R. Zax
Vice-Chairman

David J. Epstein

Daniel W. Hancock

Stuart G. Moldaw

Jennifer A. Openshaw

Charles S. Poochigian
Senator

H. Eric Schockman

Richard R. Terzian

Juan Vargas
Assemblymember

John Vasconcellos
Senator

Stanley M. Zimmerman

James P. Mayer
Executive Director

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Little Hoover Commission
925 L Street, Suite 805
Sacramento, California 95814
(916) 445-2125 or (916) 322-7709(fax)
little.hoover@lhc.ca.gov

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