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Microsoft accused of technology theft
Yahoo ^ | Thu Jun 20, 9:09 AM ET | Lisa M. Bowman

Posted on 06/20/2002 12:04:10 PM PDT by Dominic Harr

Microsoft accused of technology theft
Thu Jun 20, 9:09 AM ET

Lisa M. Bowman

In a new suit that echoes earlier charges from Netscape, Sun Microsystems and others, Microsoft is accused of bullying companies out of using Burst.com products and stealing the streaming company's technology.

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The suit, filed Tuesday in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California, claims Microsoft's upcoming video encoding and decoding product, Corona, includes Burst's patented video-delivery technology. The company also alleges that Microsoft pressured partners and customers, including Intel and RealNetworks, into dropping support for Burst technology. And it claims Microsoft intentionally caused Burst's products to be incompatible with Windows software.

In the complaint, lawyers for Burst said Microsoft's actions have caused the company "serious and continuing damage and have deprived consumers of valuable new technologies that threatened to disturb Microsoft's strategy to maintain and expand its operating system's dominance to the delivery of high-quality video over the Internet."

Burst said Microsoft gained access to its streaming technology while the two companies were trying to negotiate a deal for the rights to it. Burst said those talks fell through and instead Microsoft took the technology and put it in Corona.

A Microsoft spokesman said company executives could not comment on the suit's specifics because they had just received it, but he defended the technology in Corona.

"Microsoft has innovated with digital media technologies in Windows for more than 10 years," Jon Murchinson said in a statement. "The fast streaming technology coming in Windows Media Corona is an example of work by Microsoft to deliver an even more compelling streaming experience to users."

Many companies have made similar claims against the software giant over the years. Sun accused Microsoft of incorporating a corrupted version of Java into its products in an attempt to stifle the technology's popularity. RealNetworks CEO Rob Glaser told a Senate panel that Microsoft "broke" his company's media player in an attempt to convince people to switch to its player.

And Netscape, now a division of AOL Time Warner, sparked the federal antitrust case by complaining that the company, among other things, thwarted delivery of its browser. At the trial, executives from companies including Intel and Apple Computer accused Microsoft of exerting undue pressure on partners and competitors to maintain its dominance--actions Microsoft defended as tough, but not illegal, business tactics.

Despite a long list of court actions against it, the company has had to make relatively few changes to its business practices. The antitrust trial, now entering its fifth year, is ongoing. On Wednesday, Microsoft and representatives of the nine states still suing the company for anticompetitive behavior were in court for closing arguments in the latest round in the case.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Technical
KEYWORDS: microsoft; techindex
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Yet more evidence that MS is not a capitalist business. They are a criminal monopolist who uses their power to prevent a capitalist free-market.

They use force, fraud, theft, coercion and purposeful breach of contract to make sure they don't have to compete.

And so it continues.

1 posted on 06/20/2002 12:04:10 PM PDT by Dominic Harr
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To: *tech_index; *Microsoft
The wind that blows between the worlds,
it cut them like a knife.

Ping.

2 posted on 06/20/2002 12:13:39 PM PDT by Dominic Harr
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To: Dominic Harr
The 'wind' I hear most often is your incessant rant.
3 posted on 06/20/2002 12:30:30 PM PDT by Fracas
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To: Dominic Harr
Microsoft has every right to screw over other peoples' software and break compatibility. They also have the right to eliminate the need for third-party software by adding free work-alikes to their own offering. This raises the question: how long will it take developers to realize what a crap-shoot it is to develop for closed operating systems?
4 posted on 06/20/2002 12:40:21 PM PDT by dwollmann
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To: Fracas
The 'wind' I hear most often is your incessant rant.

Don't like all this evidence of MS's illegalities?

Don't shoot the messenger . . .

5 posted on 06/20/2002 12:42:45 PM PDT by Dominic Harr
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To: Dominic Harr
Agreed, Microsoft has never originated any technology, merely stolen the intelectual property of others.
6 posted on 06/20/2002 12:42:50 PM PDT by Fish out of Water
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To: Dominic Harr
This looks like only an accusation at this point. Do you think it might be a good idea to wait until there is a ruling before calling this 'more evidence' against Microsoft?
7 posted on 06/20/2002 12:45:01 PM PDT by LibertineR
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To: dwollmann
Microsoft has every right to screw over other peoples' software and break compatibility.

No, that's vandalism.

They do not have that right.

Obviously so.

But more specifically, as relates to this and the Netscape and BeOS and Stac and . . . many cases:

MS can not take the IP of others, put it in their software, and then use their clout to lean on the retailers to drop the original product and use the stolen one.

That behavior is illegal. It's MS's standard tactic -- "Embrace, Extend, Extinquish".

MS did not become who they are by being capitalists.

Remember who John Galt refused to work for, who he went "on strike" against . . .

Who is John Galt?

8 posted on 06/20/2002 12:46:34 PM PDT by Dominic Harr
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Agreed, Microsoft has never originated any technology, merely stolen the intelectual property of others.

I'm on your side of this issue. My son, a high-level developer, knows MS is crooked. It's cost him and plenty of other smart developers a bundle and cost consumers innovative products.

9 posted on 06/20/2002 12:49:49 PM PDT by PoisedWoman
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To: LibertineR
This looks like only an accusation at this point.

You do indeed have a point.

But since this is what, the how many dozenth time MS has been in trouble for this specific thing, odds are it's accurate.

And this is specifially the 'Elephant in the living room' with this MS case. The MS defenders completely ignore MS's history of 'Embrace, Extend, Extinguish', completely ignore the court losses, completely ignore all the *other*, already proven cases in which MS's illegalities were well proven with a mountain of evidence.

But you are right.

Nothing has yet been proven this time.

And if/when it is, the MS defenders will just call me a "basher" again and ignore the evidence. Again!

10 posted on 06/20/2002 12:50:03 PM PDT by Dominic Harr
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I do not work for Microsoft.

I am not shooting the messenger, but after several years of reading these threads, the constant whining about big bad Microsoft gets very tiresome. If you don't like MS, that's fine, don't use their products. I do not see evidence of illegalities; I see evidence of envy.

11 posted on 06/20/2002 12:50:46 PM PDT by Fracas
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To: Fish out of Water
Agreed, Microsoft has never originated any technology, merely stolen the intelectual property of others.

Agreed.

12 posted on 06/20/2002 12:51:20 PM PDT by Dominic Harr
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I do not see evidence of illegalities; I see evidence of envy.

Then you have not looked at the evidence.

As in this accusation -- Stac, BeOS, heck, literally dozens of times, MS steals the IP of others then calls the retailers and tells them that if they don't drop the original product in favor of MS's version which does the same thing (since it's the *same* code) then the retailer will lose their Windows discounts.

That's illegal, heinous, and very anti-capitalistic.

I'm sorry if you're tired of seeing software people complain about MS's constant crimes, but they're serious crimes destroying lives and honest companies.

13 posted on 06/20/2002 12:54:03 PM PDT by Dominic Harr
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"Microsoft has innovated with digital media technologies in Windows for more than 10 years," Jon Murchinson said in a statement. "The fast streaming technology coming in Windows Media Corona is an example of work by Microsoft to deliver an even more compelling streaming experience to users."

Typical MS.  Ask a question about their business practices, and they give you a propaganda advertisement.
14 posted on 06/20/2002 12:56:17 PM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: PoisedWoman
My son, a high-level developer, knows MS is crooked. It's cost him and plenty of other smart developers a bundle and cost consumers innovative products.

Pretty much everyone in the industry not working for MS knows it.

The only people you'll see defending MS either are MS 'strategic partners' or have no experience with the IT biz.

15 posted on 06/20/2002 12:56:54 PM PDT by Dominic Harr
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To: Fracas
MS has already had a $400,000 judgement handed against them in france for stealing registered animation code.  They also bankrupted the company that they stole if from.

I think it is ironic that they are ham-fisted in their approach when others pirate their works and yet, feel that they should be able to pirate others' works at their leisure.
16 posted on 06/20/2002 1:01:07 PM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: Dominic Harr
In the computer industry, outside of Xerox Park, practically everyone steals from everyone.

I dont think it is fair to suggest (not saying you are) that Microsoft is the only company that incorporates technology that they didnt invent. Apple Computer had to learn that lesson the hard way in court.

I think the criteria for judgement should be whether or not a company pays for the use of the technologies that they put in their products. If a case can be made that Microsoft actually STOLE the technology, which I guess is the accusation, then the plantiffs should win, right?

I think there have been two cases where Microsoft was found guilty of this kind of behavior, and their may have been others where there was a settlement, but I dont know. I just think that this is a case of something most if not all software companies do, and I have no clue on how to police this behavior.
17 posted on 06/20/2002 1:01:27 PM PDT by LibertineR
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch
Typical MS. Ask a question about their business practices, and they give you a propaganda advertisement.

:-D

18 posted on 06/20/2002 1:02:34 PM PDT by Dominic Harr
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I'm not defending Microsoft here, I'm just pointing out the risk involved in developing software for their OS. When I wrote "work-alikes", I did not mean to imply "somone else's code", just that Microsoft have every right to include their own applications even if they put someone out of business. It's their product, they can change it or add to it any time they like.
19 posted on 06/20/2002 1:04:15 PM PDT by dwollmann
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