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1 posted on 06/19/2002 11:33:59 AM PDT by sheltonmac
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Lee,

That is one fine and well crafted essay. In these days, satire is almost impossible, because reality is just too weird.

Wonderful work.

Don

139 posted on 06/19/2002 3:34:54 PM PDT by don-o
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Ha! I know what you're doing, Lee. My uncle used to always joke that to keep flies out of your kitchen, put a bucket of $#!+ in the living room. ahaha
149 posted on 06/19/2002 4:01:44 PM PDT by Twodees
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Don't agree.. Because without Liberty we can never be safe..

It's a nice line though. Sounds good, get's good marks on the warm and fuzzy scale... Hitler felt the same way when the Reichstag burned.

PS: And anyone who thinks fedgov can make us safe from people willing to give their own lives to take ours should have their head examined. They can't even protect us from Armed Robbers and car stero thieves, you think they can make sure you aren't the victim of a terrorist attack by taking your freedom? Come on.. What a stupid argument.

153 posted on 06/19/2002 4:45:44 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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Whadda great post, and I'm so happy I didn't fall for it!!! Thanks, I really enjoyed it! The responses were so enlightening.
168 posted on 06/19/2002 5:52:12 PM PDT by 68 grunt
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Sigh... no matter how obvious you try to make it, satire is always taken deadly serious by far too many people. You have my sympathies.
169 posted on 06/19/2002 5:57:52 PM PDT by Snuffington
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Ann Coulter in a recent interview a day or so ago also addressed this subject directly concerning the Libertarians.

GOPUSA: Libertarian purists seem to oppose even basic immigration reforms. And many don't want to make big expenditures on the ''war on terrorism''. Are they fully cognizant of the dangers presented by terrorism?

AC: No. ''Purist'' Libertarians take spiteful Anti-American positions in the hopes that someone someday will invite them to a pot party. The only way to get the holier-than-thou Libertarians behind the war on terrorism is to remind them that Muslims oppose the legalization of marijuana.
174 posted on 06/19/2002 6:49:40 PM PDT by A CA Guy
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The problem with this advice is that it is well over two centuries old, and no one back then could have imagined the dangers we face today. We are at war and should be expected to sacrifice some liberty for safety.

The 1st amendment is 200 years old...the 2nd amendment was back when people had to hunt...damn that constitution...
What a stupid assed reason by a stupid assed 'journalist'.

. The few individuals who are not seem to be those who are clinging too tightly to their precious Constitution.

It's the law. Tough s**t. If you don't like it, move to a better country for freedom grabbers like you.

They refuse to give up even the smallest right, when doing so might mean the difference between victory and defeat
Can someone tell me what in the hell can secret searches do in this 'war'(CONGRESS declares war) to help victory????

These people, whether they realize it or not, are the terrorists' strongest allies in this war.
BS. If we lose freedoms, the terrorists win.

Any attempt to detract from the plans of our president and his administration is tantamount to treason.

Treason, huh. It's called the FIRST AMENDMENT!!!!

If they can't learn the concept of "go along to get along," they need to be silenced. This war needs to be won-no matter what the cost. Silenced huh. Hey tough guy, silence me!!!

*NOTE: This is a satirical piece designed to expose the twisted logic of the "win at all costs" crowd, and the views expressed herein should not be confused with the actual beliefs of the author.

Bwhahahah. I found that when I clicked on the link. I was about ready to punch out my computer reading this stuff.

176 posted on 06/19/2002 7:01:16 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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The problem with this advice is that it is well over two centuries old

The few individuals who are not seem to be those who are clinging too tightly to their precious Constitution.

Any attempt to detract from the plans of our president and his administration is tantamount to treason. If they can't learn the concept of "go along to get along," they need to be silenced.

The Constitution may have been good enough for a fledgling nation 200 years ago, but we must evolve beyond such a narrow worldview if we hope to remain a global superpower.

If we allow a dusty old document like the Constitution to prevent us from doing what is necessary, we shall lose the respect of those who look to our nation as an example of greatness.

This is either tongue-in-cheek or written by a lunatic.

187 posted on 06/19/2002 7:21:10 PM PDT by metesky
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You've outdone yourself Lee. Great work.
205 posted on 06/19/2002 8:24:44 PM PDT by Demidog
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If history is any indication, every civil liberty you give up now will be promptly restored once this war is over. That's a promise.

Somehow, even as I pray the war is won, I cannot help but say that I will believe it if and when I see it.

The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey - undiluted and untaxed. - Sen. Sam J. Ervin (what can I say, once in awhile even a Democrat can commit wisdom, rare - perhaps extinct - though said Democrat be...)
215 posted on 06/19/2002 8:50:37 PM PDT by BluesDuke
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The problem with this advice is that it is well over two centuries old, and no one back then could have imagined the dangers we face today.

Wrong, Commie statist (I'm refering to the author here). Dead wrong. In case the author of this idiotic piece didn't pay attention during American history because he was too busy reading Trotsky, Ben Franklin and the other Founding Fathers got to experience the kind, gentle, and considerate ways of the British Army, who pretty much did whatever they damn well pleased until we grew so fed up we declared independance from Britian.

Ben Franklin got to experience troops stationing themselves in people's houses without permission, invading homes and searching through the possessions of British citizens without stated cause or permission, arrests without charges and convictions without evidence, excessive taxation without representation, and dozens of other injuries perpetuated by his own government which *we of today* have hardly ever experienced even mildly (though that is changing).

Compared to the dangers represented by a government oppressing its own people, those of terrorist acts are miniscule, especially when an out of control government begins to resemble an organization based on terror -- terror among its own citizens, such as the Soviets used to feel towards their government.

Terrorism must be fought, but not at the expense of self-enslavement.

Tuor

Give me liberty or give me death.

PS You should've put something to indicate this is a satire in the article, not the source. That I know there are fools who believe this stuff is enough to get my blood boiling every time I think about it.

232 posted on 06/20/2002 5:38:11 AM PDT by Tuor
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Liberty is overrated. Safety is what counts during times of crisis. After all, how can liberty be enjoyed if one cannot feel safe?

Spoken like a true leftist. Steven Spielburg said as much a few days ago.

238 posted on 06/20/2002 6:21:28 AM PDT by texlok
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Liberty is overrated

LIBERTY is what this country is founded upon. I for one, do not want to give up any of it. We can secure our country with a minimum of governmental intrusion on our rights if the security apparatus is focused on the likely terrorists...

Mike

242 posted on 06/20/2002 8:48:22 AM PDT by MichaelP
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I'll take FREEDOM over safety anyday!!!!!

Excellent article.....

redrock--Constitutional Terrorist

249 posted on 06/20/2002 6:34:25 PM PDT by redrock
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Liberty is overrated. Safety is what counts during times of crisis. After all, how can liberty be enjoyed if one cannot feel safe.

RATS REAR! NEVER give an inch!

255 posted on 06/21/2002 10:44:37 AM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon
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To: kristinn; leadpenny; tgslTakoma; Angelwood; Gore_ War_ Vet
Didn't go through the posts. Aplogize if you've already seen
258 posted on 06/25/2002 9:46:23 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother
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Great Post!

WAR IS PEACE; FREEDOM IS SLAVERY; IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH


262 posted on 12/29/2005 4:15:45 AM PST by md2576 (Desensitize loss of freedom with fear of imminent attacks.)
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You guys scare me more than the terrorists. Do us all a favor, and move to Iran. They like your police state attitude there....and before you flame me, I’m a conservative.....but I’m not an idiot.


264 posted on 07/07/2008 7:46:19 PM PDT by Black Mtn Man
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