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I have said this over and over on this, and many other threads. It is not a fresh admission--it is my fundamental argument against most common creationist cavils against evolutionary theory because it supposedly rests on abiogenesis--an incorrect view of both history and the current state of scientific knowledge.

That's right abiogenesis is not science, it is atheistic pipe dreams. However, even though no one was there, if it were true, it would be possible from things we do know about which came afterward to formulate at least a hypothesis of how it could have come about. There is not even a valid hypothesis of how it could have come about. And no, the RNA world which is the latest atheist nonsense is total garbage. Viruses are 99% of the way to being self replicating forms, yet not a single experiment, not a single of the millions of different attempts at forcing it to mutate, change or whatever, has shown it to ever transform itself into a self-replicatiing creature. So even after being taken to almost all the way necessary for true life to arise, you folk cannot get to the final tiniest step. So no, all the evidence, all the scientific evidence, not the pot filled pipe dreams of atheists says that abiogenesis is totally impossible.

And no, the RNA world which is the latest atheist nonsense is total garbage

Once again, you had better get a note off to the Curators of the nations museums, and the writers of our nations biological text books, as we have just revised the Tree of Life, due to work by Woese that points unmistakably at a pre-cellular RNA world. Oh, the perfidy of all those scholars, teachers, and scientists. Oh, the immensity of this conspiracy against TRUTH. What an incredible payroll the perfideous scum at the heart of the RNA-world conspiracy must maintain to keep bribing all these people into silence.

There is not even a valid hypothesis of how it could have come about.

Pig poop. There are lots of them, and I have been at pains on this, and many other threads to adumbrate a few of them. And none that I know of has as yet been rendered mute for all time by current experiments.

So no, all the evidence, all the scientific evidence, not the pot filled pipe dreams of atheists says that abiogenesis is totally impossible.

Stop it, go home and get some sleep. Than submit your proof that science has closed the books on abiogensis. Your virus example is the most preposterous in a long line of preposterous examples. Science barely knows anything about this subject, and here you are claiming all the work is done and we can all go home. Grow up. Viruses are not self-reproducing without the existence of DNA, which you are now asking me to demonstrate they produce. You cannot bootstrap yourself into existence--no material thing can. Viruses are quite obviously a different story, not the taproot of life.