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To: Ahban
You are find of citing the Copernican view as being better than the Ptolemic view. Did you know that Copernicus was a Christian Cleric? That Ptolemy was most likely a naturalist?

I don't care if a scientific view is championed by green pond scum from Jupiter. The worldly pedigree of a theories proponents are not what we judge a scientific theory on.

Returning to a theistic worldview will not bring anarchy

I'd remind you that creationists once had the political authority to kill those who held non-theistic views. By comparison, anarchy seems pretty benign. The church banned and burned books, witches, and jews on the basis of un-scientific theistic theories. This is not a good plan you are offering up. It is a bad plan, a very bad plan. Science works just fine as it is, for all it's worts and limitations--your offer is rejected with prejudice.

169 posted on 06/28/2002 11:33:48 AM PDT by donh
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To: donh
I don't care if a scientific view is championed by green pond scum from Jupiter. The worldly pedigree of a theories proponents are not what we judge a scientific theory on.

I never said they were. I was rebutting your outlandish claims about what would happen to science if we used it with a theistic, rather than naturalistic, worldview. You seem to think a theistic worldview would mean a dark age "worse than anarchy". My response was to note that the giants of western science were often Christians who had no problem with the idea that God did certain things, including create the universe and devise the natural laws they were discovering.

Their worldview did not stop them from moving mankind's knowledge forward, and it won't stop it now. What will stop it is if there actually IS an extra-dimensionality that interacts with this 3d + time universe and "scientists" are afraid to consider it because "we don't go there" (shove head in sand).

Quoting someone's pedigree is not a good final judge of someone's theories, but my point was that their theories checked out, in spite of their Theistic pedigrees. This refutes your position that a return to a theistic worldview will arrest scientific progress.

176 posted on 06/28/2002 3:33:40 PM PDT by Ahban
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