[crystalk]

You see where I am headed. Where is the evidence the two young women EVER CAMPED IN THE PARK AT ALL. Isn't it more likely this was an elaborate cover, while they were in fact somewhere else such as in Luray less than 10 miles away, or in DC some 85 miles away?

Where is the evidence they could ever have carried all this equipment, food, etc. They were not marvels of strength or physical stamina.

If the girls had been dead 200 yards from the paved road for 5 days, with countless tourists and hikers passing in the immediate area, why did not their dog appear to the people, or at the Lodge, until SATURDAY June 1?

Looks like a Conditcide or Arkancide to me!

[crystalk]

crystalk ping

[CapandBall]

There is no "Skyline Lodge" in the SNP.

[drjimmy]

This partial transcript from "America's Most Wanted" differs quite a bit from your description of Williams/Winan and their time in the park:
[Host, John Walsh] On May 18, the experienced backpackers decided to go exploring. They set off from Vermont and headed south to central Virginia to the Shenandoah National Park. Julie and Lollie arrived at the northern park entrance on May 19th, and got a camping permit for two nights. They stopped at Pinnacles' Overlook on Skyline Drive. Lollie's dog, Taj, went along on the trip. The FBI and Park Rangers retraced Julie and Lollie's trip and put together a timeline, using snapshots the women took themselves. May 20th, Julie and Lollie hiked down White Oak Canyon Trail to experience the spectacular waterfalls. Despite two days of rain, they got an extension on their camping permit at Thornton Gap on May 22nd.

[Ranger Barbara Stewart] They had registered to go backcountry camping from, I believe, the 22nd to the 27th of May. When I got a chance to talk to them about, you know, about other things, just in the few minutes, I liked them, and, I didn't know their names then, but they were nice folks.

[Host, John Walsh] On May 23rd, Julie and Lollie hiked to Pollocks Knob on the Appalachian Trail. They took this photo below Crescent Rock Overlook.

[FBI, Bill Falls] Friday, on the 24th, is the last day that we actually have pictures of them.

[Host, John Walsh] Julie and Lollie hiked up Hawksbill Mountain, the highest point in the park, and took a break with Taj at Bird's Nest Two. Tired from the trek, the women hitched a ride from Hawksbill, stopping near Skyland to find a campsite for the night.

[Ranger Clayton Jordan] One of our Park Rangers drove them to a parking lot located at the top of this trail and that is the last confirmed siting of Julianne Williams and Lollie Winans alive.

[Ditter]

I have never heard of these murders before so I read your post with intrest. After reading your post twice I still could not understand what you were trying to connect. I read it again this morning, I still don't get it. Did condit or clinton have these girls rubbed out for political reasons? If not who are you accusing? Hillary? Where the girls only trying to appear as if they were camping while they went someplace else & did something? I love a good murder mystery but I need some help here if I am going to think it is anything more than a random killing.

[crystalk]

If they were attacked in the park, why did their dog not bark and alert them to the midnight approach of their killer? Why no struggle, they just each laid their asleep motionless while the throat of the other was being slashed, and the dog, an alert and noisy creature, did nothing?

I just do not buy it.

I am well aware that my own failings and weaknesses will be used to try to discredit the case I make, and I can only wish someone more flawless would have presented these questions, but just consider that the stones are now crying out. Look at the case, not at me, for crying out loud.

[crystalk]

poster asserts these victims were bound and gagged. I do not recall that being stated in any of the 15-odd articles I have read over the past 2 years. Wd eliminate single-kook midnight-stalker-in-park theory.

[crystalk]

whassup here? lesbians bound and gagged at Luray?

[Plummz]

I just read a short item from the April 30 Washington Times that said Rice's DNA was tested for three Spotsylvania murders in late 96/ early 97. (Sofia Silva, Kristen and Kati Lisk.)

Were those the murders that produced that produced the Condit-like police sketch?

[captain11]

Interesting angle, but it has been discussed in some detail on other threads and the Condit links are tenuous or non-existent. The real question is:

What was Gary Condit doing at the McDonald's payphone in Luray, Virginia at midnight, May 17, 2001?

[Plummz]

S.C. Man Killed 3 Va. Girls and Md. Woman, Police Believe
Rape Suspect Who Shot Self Had Incriminating Notes, Map

By Lisa Rein and Lyndsey Layton
Washington Post Staff Writers
Monday, July 1, 2002; Page A01


Law enforcement officials said yesterday they are confident that Richard M. Evonitz, who shot himself to death as police surrounded him in Florida last week, killed three Spotsylvania girls and a Baltimore woman whose unsolved murders have baffled Virginia authorities for six years.

Among the items recovered from Evonitz's Columbia, S.C., apartment were handwritten notes with a map and directions to Blockhouse Road in Spotsylvania, where sisters Kati Lisk, 12, and Kristin Lisk, 15, lived when they were abducted in May 1997. The notes described two white females, one "11 or 12, the other 14 or 15," next to the words "brunettes" and "very cute," said Sheriff James R. Metts of Lexington County, S.C.

[...]

Another note had directions to where Baltimore student Alicia Showalter Reynolds's body was found in 1996, two months after she was seen getting into a pickup truck with a man along Route 29 in Culpeper County.

[...]

Metts also disclosed that Evonitz, 38, who is suspected of kidnapping and raping a 15-year-old girl in South Carolina last week, was on a list of suspects Spotsylvania police had linked to the slayings of the Lisk sisters and Sofia Silva, 16, who was abducted from her Spotsylvania home in September 1996.

[...]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/articles/A5625-2002Jun30.html