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To: waterstraat
Just who do you think is smarter, M.Jackson or you?

I am. Because I know enough to live with myself every day not having to mutilate myself because I'm so pathetic I NEED attention from women (and men) who hang off rich people like ticks on a dog. It's clear what your values are: money and fame. Sure, I'd like to have money. But I do not want fame. I'd rather be rich and anonymous than rich and famous. And for the record, my IQ is 167. And I have one woman who thinks I'm hot, which is enough for me. What anybody else thinks (good or bad) is unimportant. So by my value system, I am smarter. If money and success are what it's all about to you, then likely nothing I say will have any effect on you whatsoever. That's OK. I've known people like that before. Sociopath is one term for them.

By the way, you neglect to mention that Michael Jackson has a hell of a lot of people that hate him, and want to do grievous bodily harm to him. How 'smart' is it to attract psychos who would injure him or his family? That's pretty self-centered, actually. He's not Jesus, for Pete's sake! Richard Ramirez(the Night Stalker), and Charles Manson, each of them have many female admirers. If that makes them better than I am (or any other FReeper on this thread), then I'd like to see who's responsible for your value system.

I've been here for a year and a half, and you have provoked my most angry post ever (directed at a member, that is, as opposed to directed at Daschle or bin Laden). Maybe that notion will give you a sense of the power you seem to be in love with.

42 posted on 06/15/2002 7:37:42 AM PDT by TrappedInLiberalHell
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
That should read 'each of them has'.
43 posted on 06/15/2002 7:40:29 AM PDT by TrappedInLiberalHell
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
It's clear what your values are: money and fame. Sure, I'd like to have money.

Those are not my values, but they are the values of most men. Most men devote the better part of their lives to making money, and spend most of their time either making money, thinking about how to make money, or on the material things that money buys.

So by my value system, I am smarter. If money and success are what it's all about to you, then likely nothing I say will have any effect on you whatsoever.

You may have better values, but that does not make you smarter. For your information, there is no correlation between how smart someone and their integrity.

By the way, you neglect to mention that Michael Jackson has a hell of a lot of people that hate him, and want to do grievous bodily harm to him. How 'smart' is it to attract psychos who would injure him or his family? That's pretty self-centered, actually. He's not Jesus, for Pete's sake!

Actually, if I remember right, Jesus had plenty of people that hated him, and wanted to do bodily harm to him. Again, there is no correlation between how smart someone is, and how many people hate you. Why are you criticizing someone who is the target of those that want to harm them? Blaming M.Jackson, Ronald Reagan, Jesus, John Kennedy as being self-centered, at fault, and for attracting others to do harm to them, shifts the blame away from the real evil doers, where the blame should lie.

I've been here for a year and a half, and you have provoked my most angry post ever (directed at a member, that is, as opposed to directed at Daschle or bin Laden). Maybe that notion will give you a sense of the power you seem to be in love with.

Your anger "directed at a member", is really a reflection of your own values and intelligence, not on mine.

I am not in love with money, fame, nor power, but I am informing you that millions of women are attracted to it, as well as being attracted to the physical appearance of M.Jackson.

The fact that you chose to get angry at me for just merely "telling" you of that fact, tells me of your true intelligence, your fairness, and your own personal values, or lack of. Maybe if you were smarter, you would instead be angry at the millions of women that are attracted to the M.Jackson image, and not on those that just inform you of it.

At least M.Jackson is making no secret of what he is doing to get what he wants. Anyone can plainly see what he has done to successfully get the huge following that he has. I knew Madonna, and her public image is also just as fakey as M.Jackson's, but she also got what she wanted thru that image. Their goal was to get money and fame, and yes, they were "smarter" than most people, since they were more successful at achieving their goals.

If you really were smart, you would search yourself to find out why you directed anger at me for pointing out the obvious. I can honestly tell you that I personally had nothing to do with how M.Jackson changed his appearance. I am not responsible at all. I also never gave him any money, nor did any of my relatives ever buy any M.Jackson material.

Perhaps, you should first find out if there are any females in your family, or among your own circle of friends and co-workers, that have ever bought any M.Jackson cd or recording, for themselves, or their daughters. Or are you afraid of WHO?? is REALLY supporting M.Jackson? It might surprise you.

59 posted on 06/15/2002 9:11:24 AM PDT by waterstraat
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