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GUNMAN KILLS ATTORNEY IN BEAUMONT (TX) OFFICE
The Houston Chronicle ^ | June 14, 2002 | John W. Gonzalez

Posted on 06/14/2002 6:46:47 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

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Tragic. Not the way to solve problems.
1 posted on 06/14/2002 6:46:47 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
One personal injury lawyer down, 99,999 to go... And the sad thing is, this guy probably WAS due some compensation, but they didn't take his case (probably thought he'd die before they saw any money.)
2 posted on 06/14/2002 7:03:09 AM PDT by Rocketwolf68
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Tragic. Not the way to solve problems.

Thanks for posting this. Certainly a sad event.

I'm repeatedly surprised by the lack of security in places like law offices, especially when attorneys choose to work cases like asbestos. I can't believe this individual (the shooter) had not exhibited some irrational behavior earlier, not to mention he was carrying a suspicious package.

Being in a "condition white" mindset can get you killed.

3 posted on 06/14/2002 7:03:35 AM PDT by toddst
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5 posted on 06/14/2002 7:07:38 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Other lawyers can chime in, but people would be surprised at the number of times lawyers have to deal with potentially being assaulted. Personally, I was attacked as a young associate when interviewing a potential plaintiff who did not like my evaluation of his chances for recovery. One of my partners had to seek a restraining order last year, when he was successful in defending a civil suit, and the losing party stalked him for months.
6 posted on 06/14/2002 7:09:07 AM PDT by JohnMac
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What is it these days with the mildly "disgruntled" venting with a gun? (Ooooh, poor choice of words.) Seems like any minor dispute or slightest semblance of hurt feelings these days justifies murder...even amongst pre-teens. They couldn't take his case because there wasn't enough evidence so he KILLED the guy?

On another note, a friend who works as a store cashier had a customer who wanted her to cash a $600 check. She typed in the customer's ID number and it alerted her that this customer had several thousand dollars in hot checks to the store. She asked the teenaged girl if she had any outstanding checks to the store because her name was showing an alert. THe girl got belligerent: "Yes, I do."

"I'm sorry," said my friend, "but I can't cash this check." At which point the girl grabbed my friend's shirt, nearly pulled her over the counter, and hissed, "I should kick your @ss." All this with people standing in line behind her.

The manager showed up at this point, gave the girl back her ID and uncashed check, and apologized for the clerk's behavior (!!!!), then escorted the girl out of the store. Over her shoulder the girl yelled, "I'm gonna get you!"

My friend quit her job that day. Her husband looked up the girl's ID number (military ID) and it came up with SIX PEOPLE who had that same SS# on a military ID. I told her she should report both the obvious fraud and the girl's threat to the authorities, but she's afraid to get involved.

It's a crazy world out there.

7 posted on 06/14/2002 7:20:42 AM PDT by shezza
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One of my partners had to seek a restraining order last year, when he was successful in defending a civil suit, and the losing party stalked him for months.

This is as good a case as one can think of for concealed carry. Wackos aren't stopped by paper. Waving the restraining order in front of a nut who confronts you may very well get you killed.

Crazy people are a lot like muggers (who are also crazy people BTW) and often need a confrontation with the "offer" of extreme violence before they'll retreat. Just one of the facts of life IMHO.

8 posted on 06/14/2002 7:23:08 AM PDT by toddst
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To: shezza
I told her she should report both the obvious fraud and the girl's threat to the authorities, but she's afraid to get involved.

See my post #8. Your friend already IS involved. Yet another case of it's time to take steps to protect (defend) yourself. All that threatening talk becomes very muted when looking down the barrel of a gun. Deal with reality or wind up hurt, perhaps worse.

9 posted on 06/14/2002 7:32:15 AM PDT by toddst
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One of my partners had to seek a restraining order last year, when he was successful in defending a civil suit, and the losing party stalked him for months.

This is as good a case as one can think of for concealed carry. Wackos aren't stopped by paper. Waving the restraining order in front of a nut who confronts you may very well get you killed.

Crazy people are a lot like muggers (who are also crazy people BTW) and often need a confrontation with the "offer" of extreme violence before they'll retreat. Just one of the facts of life IMHO.

In an instance that happened to cross my path, it was a matter of a female attorney friend who had refused to take on the defense of a local *businessman* charged with trafficing in narcotics, shortly after the overdose death of a local highschool girl. Accordingly, the lawyer was told her house would be blown up and her family would be killed.

She came to me requesting assistance in chosing a handgun for her personal protection and instruction in its use, which she got, but I pointed out to her that if she needed to go to California or New York , she'd hardly be inclined to buy an airliner and learn to fly it- and that buying a airline ticket, or chartering a plane with pilot would make more sense.

So in addition to the steps she'd taken to protect herself, she accepted the services of a *consultant,* along with a couple of subcontractors I hired to assist. The next time the extortionate threats came her way, she showed her prospective client a million-dollar insurance policy she'd taken out on herself. In the event anything happened to her, it would be used to provide a reward fund for the removal of pieces of her least-favourite client, beginning with his right arm the first year, a leg the second, and so on, to include his eyes and tongue toward the end of a ten-year session of organ donations. And, by the way, his home would be blown up and his family would also be killed.

She didn't have any more problems with him after that. He knew well enough when someone was trying to run a bluff against him, and she was not.

-archy-/-

10 posted on 06/14/2002 7:47:40 AM PDT by archy
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
He must have studied Shakespeare - "First thing we do is kill all the lawyers."
11 posted on 06/14/2002 9:20:11 AM PDT by 3catsanadog
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You do know that that statement was made by an antagonistic character who was trying to wrongfully take power and saw lawyers as a barrier to his power grab, don't you?
12 posted on 06/14/2002 9:26:05 AM PDT by Iwo Jima
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To: Rocketwolf68
You don't know what the hell you are talking about. How do you conclude that he was "due compensation"? For Christ's sake, as set forth in the article, the guy's medical reports came back and said the guy wasn't sick. So the lawyer did the ethical thing and told the guy they couldn't proceed. I only wish more laywers would so behave. Withdraw your asinine comments, jerk.
13 posted on 06/14/2002 9:26:59 AM PDT by ACross
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To: 3catsanadog
Do you know the context in which that passage was stated? The first thing one must do to bring down a government -- and to create anarchy -- is to kill all the lawyers. You aren't as smart or funny as you think.
14 posted on 06/14/2002 9:28:30 AM PDT by ACross
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To: ACross
I guess I'm not. From now on I'll be eternally grateful for all the legal eagles running our government and earning their pay drafting and passing thousands of laws every year.
15 posted on 06/14/2002 9:39:15 AM PDT by 3catsanadog
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I have great sympathy for the deceased and for the distraught elderly alleged assailant, as much a victim here as the dead attorney. I am sure he was not mentally competent and should not spend a day in jail for this act of temporary insanity. The old guy needs treatment, not prison.

The lawyer business is the only major industry with no consumer oversight and no recourse for distressed clients. The bar associations are nothing more than trade groups, the equivalent to putting a wolf pack to guard a herd of sheep when it comes to protecting the public.

Endless lawyer ads promise easy million dollar payouts and create an explosive sense of entitlement on the part of the citizenry. Combine that with an arrogant dismissal by the law firm in question and the I am sure the old gentleman had a completely understanible nervous breakdown, making him not responsible for his actions.

16 posted on 06/14/2002 9:39:38 AM PDT by friendly
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To: ACross
Greetings! From one great mind to another!
17 posted on 06/14/2002 9:41:47 AM PDT by Iwo Jima
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To: 3catsanadog
Or you can occupy yourself worrying about black helicopters, the Second Amendment, and Waco.
18 posted on 06/14/2002 9:53:28 AM PDT by ACross
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To: shezza
"I'm sorry," said my friend, "but I can't cash this check." At which point the girl grabbed my friend's shirt, nearly pulled her over the counter, and hissed, "I should kick your @ss." All this with people standing in line behind her.

Basically, attempted robbery.

19 posted on 06/14/2002 10:00:01 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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LOL. That is GOOD. I'll remember that one.
20 posted on 06/14/2002 10:02:11 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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