Posted on 06/13/2002 8:54:06 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache
FERVENTLY agreed. And prayed for frequently. I was hoping all active and reserve NG troops would be called into action here, to patrol our borders. Our military and paramilitary is stretched pretty thin. It really worries me.
The DoJ is citing Supreme Court precedent from the 1940's. It could hold up. They seem to think it will. I don't know.
You believe correctly. 'Course, the reason Congress made this extraordinary request of the president has less to do with a "WMD carrying, covert operations, terroristic, non-national and barbaric nature of our enemy"....and everything to do with Congress covering it's collective derriere. If anything goes wrong, Congress (Daschle/McCain/Clinton/Gephardt) is completely covered...and will be right up front with the noose to hang the president and the JCoS should ANYTHING go wrong.
IMO, that's why the administration has seemed to OVER cautious to many of us.
True, the GOP isn't hoping for a socialist paradise, but there have been many on FR and elsewhere who've lauded the so-called "latino outreach" championed by the RNC (which amounts to pandering and little in the way of ideas), who've convinced themselves that if Republicans would just whistle a Democrat tune, Illegals and their friends and families will be casting conservative ballots forevermore.
"Natural Republicans," and "future Republicans" and all that.
Maybe... I've seen speculation regarding that, but never really saw the evidence. I don't recall anyone in the administration upset with the language. The reason I mentioned seemed to make more sense to me. Also, I find it hard to believe that if Bush wanted a Declaration of War, Daschle/McCain/Clinton/Gephardt would have risked saying no in front of the whole nation in September.
WHO'S language? Not the Constitution. The Bush administration has been citing constitutional precedent from the start. For everything it's done, starting with the precedent of the Barbary Pirates, in which war was declared aginst a group, then later a back dated "writ was done" in order to tidy things up....no, the Bush admin has been careful about that.
The reason I mentioned seemed to make more sense to me. Also, I find it hard to believe that if Bush wanted a Declaration of War, Daschle/McCain/Clinton/Gephardt would have risked saying no in front of the whole nation in September.
He DID ask for a declaration of war, and Congress DID drcline, citing the 18whatever it is precdent...err...bbl...my daughter in law is having trouble...she's 6 mos pregnant...distracted...look it up!
I don't see the appropraite amount of foam running off your chin, you "sickening" un-American. How dare you question our government? Who cares if you have no evidence or facts? All you need to know is that our executive branch would never do anything wrong or incompetent and all our leaders are, always have been and always will be as pure as goldilocks's panties.
BTW, whoever used the term "sickening" to describe someone who questions whether our government is overstepping itself better hope I never become an executive, because I could be a real bastard when I want to. I'll use your own tard-logic standard to whisk your non-thinking ass away for not having enough concern for constitutional issues.
That is after all very un-American in my eyes.
The language of the congressional authorization to use all force necessary
No, Bush did NOT request a declaration of war. It looks like one of those myths that's repeated so often by kooks here that people think its true. Look here:
BTW, My wife's 1 month behind your daughter in-law.
My apologies for jumping into your fight Laz, but I thought that was a LITTLE over the top.
hmm… 2 days ago you wanted to "kill anyone even remotely connected in any way whatsoever to radical Islamists" and now you're upset that an al-Queda operative with US citizenship working to radiate a US city has been held in secret for a month.
So he didn't request stringently enough and 90+ percent of the American people didn't want him to bother with formalities....we wanted him to lay on with the forpower while congress was busy making a collective yellow puddle under their chairs, BEGGING him to to this, citing eighteenth century precedent and covering their political butts.
Congress made the request. It's Bush's fault. Right.
Wishing the best for the three of you.
My daughter in-law's on her way to the hospital right now, and I have no quick way of finding out what's going on with ther except to hang around on the Web, waiting to be messaged.
ake crumb, I don't know what you think I'm saying, but it's not an accurate read of what I wrote. I'm happy with this congressional authorization, and as far as I know, so's Bush. It's a cluster of thick headed fired up misinformed wannabes generals here who're screaming for a formal Declaration of War. There's also a lot fo 'blame America first' people calling for it, knowing how much it would tie our hands.
I wish her well. But as you probably know, if it's cramps or contractions, it's often nothing. Always good to have a look though.
I don’t know what happened to that "c"…
Go back and re-read my post, and quit calling people who question our half-ass half competent Ministries "sickening".
I still want to kill them! Please you're making me out to be a softie, you're going to ruin my reputation!
Key word here is citizen. If he's a citizen, charge the mofo and when found guilty pass me a gun and I'll splash his gray matter all over the town square and have fun doing it.
Don't worry I'm not going wobbly on anyone.
...And LOL....that "ake crumb"....thought you meant "AKA", so I'm batting at least 600 in the misunderstanding department.
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