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ABCNEWS | June 11, 2002 | Leroy Sievers

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

"Are gays become so powerfully placed that the bishops are frightened of them?"

The way "Archbishop" Flynn looked when he punted Koppel's question about the role of homosexuality in the scandals, one is forced to conclude that the poor bishop is either mentally retarded, psychotic, suffering from a head injury, on an overdose of LSD, afraid of the political pressure of homos, or a homo himself.

[american colleen]

The Bishops are beyond redemption.

Sadly, you are right. There are very few trustworthy, righteous men in the hierarchy. I can't believe I am actually saying that.

I guess this stuff is not new, only the reasons change.

When the Council of Nicaea was called in 325, even though he was only still only a deacon, his Bishop chose Athanasius to accompany him as a periti. There he amazed and impressed the Council Fathers with his thorough knowledge of the Faith and his masterful apologetics approach of defending the Faith, especially against the Arian heresy. Though Arianism was soundly condemned at Nicaea, it did not go away. Rather it spread further and, were it not for men like Athanasius, who knows what further damage might have been done. It was Athanasius himself who illustrated the great damage done when he said, "The floor of hell is paved with the skulls of bishops." He was, of course, referring to those bishops - the vast majority - who had been lured away from the True Church in following the false teachings of Arius. If that many bishops were in hell, how many who followed them down the wide path to perdition also were? They say for every priest who loses his soul, 1000 souls are lost; for every bishop who loses his eternal soul, 10,000 souls are denied the Heavenly portals.

[american colleen]

You are so lucky that you'll get to hear Michael Rose speak. Maryz posted a radio interview he did here in Boston - he sounds very well versed in the problems of homosexuality in the Church. I wish the Bishops would attend that function and not waste their time like it appears they will be doing on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.

I think it is a combo of problems. I think some of the Bishops are gay, most are guilty of some kind of cover-up and all are friends with those guilty of one or the other sins listed above. They'd rather compromise the Church than come clean and get rid of their sinning "friends." It is indeed a network. And anyone who doesn't come forth and be honest is guilty.

[fatima]

Saw that,agree.Time to be in or out and do not send losers to give us baby food because you have not seen the grown up church in action.

[fatima]

I have the link by freep mail only and only read one book as I did not know then he walk out on the Pope,never read another thing he wrote,death has no victories.

[fatima]

He was way wrong about the 3rd secrt of Fatima in known interviews.He said he knew and gave us,big time wrong hints

[LarryLied]

Odd you should post that about your church stamping out Arianism. My church traces its roots to Arius :-)

This time, don't let any of them get away. Unitarians have done a lot of good but, considering where they are now, it would have been better had none escaped in the 4th century.

[Salvation]

Say a Rosary a day this week and through the Conference for the Bishops

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

Malachi Martin, you mean? Not up on what he claimed to know about this. I take it you consider what was released as the whole thing despite discrepancies with prior statements by Sr. Lucy and others familiar with it? A strange tale.

[Salvation]

About Peter:
I know the Bible talks about Peter's mother-in-law, but I am not familiar with the verse and the timing in his life.

[RobbyS]

Good summary.

[Salvation]

The church will emerge from this purged and stronger than ever. And that is good for everyone who loves liberty.

Thanks, LL!

The Catholic Church is about God, a loving and forgiving God; what about your church, Tacis?

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

One of the "discredited" sources on the Third Secret claimed it dealt with the following: a "warning that the Catholic Church will undergo a catastrophic loss of faith and discipline beginning around 1960 - the "great apostasy" predicted in Scripture as a harbinger of the end times."

Maybe that wasn't in the released text, but it's a fairly accurate description of what we have been watching. What happened to the part Sr. Lucy had talked about "the dogma of the faith" being preserved in Portugal? That seems to have disappeared rather curiously....

[fatima]

church,sorry for the caps,lead me to the non catholic's posts,oh I forgot they do not have any,they are all here with the catholic's.We pray together and thank you for your bumps.

[Salvation]

By the way, tell us all where one can find "Scripture alone" in Scripture?

Correct you are becuase Luther was the one who added the word 'alone'.

[Salvation]

they were probably homosexual males born into Catholic families in the 1940's and 1950's who were sent into the priesthood by their families to avoid the scandal of being homosexual

Interesting theory. You just may have something there. Or maybe those males chose that life on their own. That is my thought about my brother, may he rest in peace.

[Salvation]

A Catholic friend told me that the Church is rotating priests - they can't be in a parish more than eight years.

In the Portland Archdiocese the term is ten years.

[Salvation]

My husband has a friend who left the Catholic seminary 30 years ago because of the rampant and blatant homosexuality he witnessed there. When he complained about it, he was treated like a troublemaker! He finally realized that straight men were unwelcome there so he left.

This is so sad.

[fatima]

HMBA,please post your source,never read this anywhere but you have dear soul,from where.

[Salvation]

Maybe to increase the number of priests, they should have gay and straight seminaries.

How about all straight?