[elfman2]

"You're dreaming. "These people" are not cowards."

Generally, people who routinely initiate the use of force are cowards at their core, choosing violence in response to fear. That's why Bush's claim that, "This morning, Freedom itself was attacked by faceless cowards." was not just posturing. I think that tendency is enough to get them singing when they're without council, alone, and being screwed with by interrogators.

[KissOfTheSith]

>Generally, people who routinely initiate the use of force are cowards at their core, choosing violence in response to fear.

Arab activists at a very high level (Arab media, Arab academia, Arab cultural institutions) have routinely indoctrinated Arab children in nearly every Arab country to believe that "the West" is raping the Arab world and Arab culture.

The Arab terrorists we are seeing are not mindless losers quivering in random fears and striking out spasmodically in any direction they can.

In fact, the Arab terrorists we are seeing are the opposite of the Arab world's version of sheeple -- the terrorists we see are the people who have the balls to try and do something about what they've been told is the destruction of their culture.

There are two points that everyone should see.

1. The terrorists do not see themselves as initiating the use of force. They've been taught that the West has been using force against them for generations.
   
   
2. The terrorists are not simply indulging in mindless violence.
   
   
   1. They've created a global organization with resources so vast that they can not only stand up to America, but actually maintain a threat after nearly a year of open warfare with us;
      
      
   2. They've created a global finance organization seemingly independent of global banks, which is also able to function effectively after nearly a year of open warfare with the most technologically sophisticated country on the planet;

It's difficult to figure out how much of what's reported we should all take at face value, and how much tin foil we should automatically strap on. But if we believe the accepted version of the whole war on terrorism, then we need to face the fact that these are NOT losers and fringe psychopaths that we're up against.

(Could anyone here like to imagine what the result would have been if, say, the CIA had been tasked with creating something like al-Qaida? Could the US government have created a global network of "fighters" powerful enough to threaten any place on the globe even after a year of struggle with a vastly larger force with vastly greater resources?)

--KotS

[exodus]

To: exodus
"You're dreaming.
"These people" are not cowards."

Generally, people who routinely initiate the use of force are cowards at their core, choosing violence in response to fear. That's why Bush's claim that, "This morning, Freedom itself was attacked by faceless cowards." was not just posturing. I think that tendency is enough to get them singing when they're without council, alone, and being screwed with by interrogators.
# 145 by elfman2
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The terrorists are not initiating force.
In their eyes, they are responding to our attack.

As for the "singing," anybody can break.
It doesn't take a coward.