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The world needs a new Churchill, and Bush must be that man
The Free Lance-Star ^ | Sunday, June 9, 2002 | Jim Lakely

Posted on 06/10/2002 2:54:11 PM PDT by seamus

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To: habs4ever
Hello Morre'al!...another Canuckster here.
N.H.L. playoffs have been exciting this year....Finally!!
Back to topic...
Did you catch Bushes photo op with Sharon today...
I nearly spilled my coffee!
"The problem is not with Arafat..but with the Palestinian people"...
Did He just say that...
I thought to myself....Man O man it has been a long time coming for this to be said..
No doubt the Ishmaeli press is going to shriek tommorrow...but let them!
Recently...Iran and the U.S. have been firing back at each other via the Rhetoric thingy.
Tenet was really pissed off during his meeting with Arafat...seeing that people were sitting in the room with him ..just having returned from the "Terror Summit" in Iran.
Yasser grined alot....sloughed Tenet off like a bad date...then went to the airwaves with.."Big explosions coming"...
This has got Iran written all over it....
Have noticed Bushes posture when discussing the Mid -east of late...there's a determined look there when He is speaking..
I bet Israeli and U.S. intel are reviewing satillite maps of South Lebanon hourly...
Maybe things are enlargeing in perspective...Iraq not really being dropped..but Iran being weighed in the balances of American resolve.
41 posted on 06/10/2002 7:30:11 PM PDT by Light Speed
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To: Light Speed
What? You don't think President Bush is a wimp? (or "whimp" as Darth says...LOL)
42 posted on 06/10/2002 7:33:45 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: CW_Conservative
There is a terrific, if dense political biography of WC by John Charmley. To boil its 600 plus pages to a few sentences:

Churchill was not a man of the present or the future. He and his worldview were firmly rooted in the last days of Victorian England and Empire. It was his almost irrational adherance to an England that no longer existed enabled him to see in the battered English people a strength and nobility that they themselves no longer felt. His genius was in his ability to make them believe.

In this GWB is no Churchill...but, we don't need another one now. We need a pissed off leader with his eye on the future and his finger on the trigger.

43 posted on 06/10/2002 7:34:16 PM PDT by wtc911
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To: Miss Marple
Ummm... when did I say "whimp"?

C'mon Marple, this is Free Republic, you should know better than that: where's your source?? :-)

44 posted on 06/10/2002 7:35:39 PM PDT by Darth Sidious
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To: seamus
Me and Eve both clicked on it.
45 posted on 06/10/2002 7:36:16 PM PDT by Dubya
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To: honeymagnolia
I'll take a Churchill any day. It doesn't make any difference to me that he was kicked out of office twice, often slept until noon, used opium in college and drank a quart of whisky every evening. The man was an astounding leader, and sometimes leaders are not perfect in the eyes of some people (no names).

I couldn't have said it better myself, ma'am.

46 posted on 06/10/2002 7:36:55 PM PDT by Minuteman23
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To: seamus
The world needs another Churchill?...and Bush must be the man?

Looks like you don't know enough about GW and Churchill.

47 posted on 06/10/2002 7:40:04 PM PDT by rightofrush
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To: Miss Marple
Obviously you fail to grasp the intellectual portent of the word 'feminine'. I use it in the classical sense. It is feminine to appease and cajol rather than to strike out in violence. It's time for violence. Lots of it.

If you are pro life, anti tax and all that, and I believe you are ... why not go the whole way and live in reality? You have shed so much of the brainwashing pap of our generation but you are afraid to take the final step. Come into the light. Yes it may kill you but you will die whole.

48 posted on 06/10/2002 7:40:46 PM PDT by mercy
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To: mercy
The President is a wise man. He doesn't hesitate to use power, but waits until the time is appropriate.

You obvioously think that bluster and flailing around are the most effective ways to accomplish goals. I am glad that you (and no one like you) are in charge.

As far as the use of the word "feminine"....I suppose you would tar Jesus Christ with the same brush.

49 posted on 06/10/2002 7:46:26 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Light Speed
How very perceptive of you. Iran is the breach of the Saudi field gun. The palis are the shells. Iraq is a small side issue because W wants to avenge daddy. I hope somebody in the NSA has things figured out cause America is clueless.
50 posted on 06/10/2002 7:47:03 PM PDT by mercy
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To: Darth Sidious; mercy
My apologies, Darth. You did not use the word "whimp." It was mercy in post #35. I stand corrected.
51 posted on 06/10/2002 7:50:15 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
You really are cookin on another planet. Jesus christ shall slay the assembled hordes ( against Israel ) by the hundreds of millions and the blood shall run four feet deep (horses bridle). It is quite feminine to see only the lamb that was slain and ignore the Alpha & Omega.
52 posted on 06/10/2002 7:53:33 PM PDT by mercy
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To: Miss Marple
Wow, mercy confused with Darth. You are REALLY MAD aren't you MM?
53 posted on 06/10/2002 7:55:14 PM PDT by mercy
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To: seamus
OK, so Churchill made a tactical mistake against the Turks. Does that make him any less right about Hitler, or brilliant in his assessment of the Nazis and his conduct during the war?

Churchill had company in his failure to appreciate the effect of entrenched machine guns.
His assessment of Hitler was right on.

May he be damned in Hell forever for his tacit support of Stalin by overlooking his conquest of Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Moldavia, and eastern Poland, as well as his aggression in attacking Finland.
His refusal to acknowlege Hitler's persecution of the Jews, and his failure to report on Brittan's attrocities against the Boers would be enough in themselves.

54 posted on 06/10/2002 7:57:25 PM PDT by rightofrush
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To: Miss Marple
Wouldn't it be more rational to speak with me concerning the content of my post...
The Tenet visit is very important intel,...Arafats behaviour afterward aswell.
Most who are plugged into Janes..Stratfor..Monterrey Strategic studies see whats cooking behind the scenes...
The Palestinian issue is the periphery ....the machine core is Iran.
55 posted on 06/10/2002 7:57:52 PM PDT by Light Speed
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To: honeymagnolia
It doesn't make any difference to me that he was kicked out of office twice, often slept until noon, used opium in college and drank a quart of whisky every evening.

Yup,but all of these things would disqualify him as a Republican candidate in America. The bible-thumpers would see to that.

56 posted on 06/10/2002 8:04:01 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: mercy
Just as the opposition said, he was annointed.

Yeah,but the sad truth is that so was his opponet. We have reached the point where only the annointed will ever win public office.

57 posted on 06/10/2002 8:07:11 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: mercy
The guys with the biggest weapons get taken out first, Ace.that is Iraq, not Iran.Iraq projects power, Iran doesn't.It gets surrogates to do that.Roll up Iraq, and Iran is finished.
58 posted on 06/10/2002 8:08:34 PM PDT by habs4ever
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To: mercy
You seem to have a higher opinion of GW than is warranted by his actions.

The one action that would have been easiest to accomplish would have been the abrogation of Clinton's EOs that continued the "War on the West" and the giveaways of our sovreignty to the UN. He hasn't taken it.

59 posted on 06/10/2002 8:10:53 PM PDT by rightofrush
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To: ex-snook
Churchill and Roosevelt made the world safe for Communism.

Where did you get this from? Churchill did everything he could do to get King Franklin to not trust Stalin or give in to him,and failed.He was in no position to make demands.

60 posted on 06/10/2002 8:11:55 PM PDT by sneakypete
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