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Smallpox Epidemic Rapidly Spreading In Pakistan Province
Dawn.com ^
| 6/9/2002
| Muqaddam Khan
Posted on 06/09/2002 1:29:09 PM PDT by ex-Texan
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To: Carry_Okie
If it was smallpox it had to come from one of two sources: CDC (US) or Biopreparat (Russia on an island in the Aral Sea belonging to either Kazakhstan or Uzbekistan). Considering the standing or organized crime in Russia, I don't think this an unlikely development.
Nor does the US Government, it would appear...
60 Minutes: Iraq Has Smallpox (thread 1)
60 Minutes: Iraq Has Smallpox (thread 2)
The sources were Iraqi defectors, IIRC, who claim that the smallpox virus was procured from sources in the bioweapons program in the former Soviet Union.
Other links of interest...
HHS Set to Order Smallpox Vaccine for All Americans
U.S. Sets Up Plan to Fight Smallpox
U.S. to Buy 155M Smallpox Vaccines
Others Follow U.S. on Smallpox Vaccine
(British) Bio-defense requires smallpox vaccine
Smallpox experiment goes well, U.S. expert says
New smallpox terror alert
CDC starts to fight smallpox as weapon
SMALLPOX VACCINATIONS CONSIDERED FOR ENTIRE U.S.
And Now, the Good News about Smallpox
Since last October, the CDC's smallpox vaccination program has been in high gear, with the goal of stockpiling enough vaccine for every man, woman, and child in America.
To: ex-Texan
Dawn is naturally prejudiced in the usual ways, but it's also usually a reasonably reliable Islamic newssheet, as far as these things go. It could be a mistranslation. It could be a mistake. It could be a Pakistani urban legend. But I trust someone is checking it out, because if true it would indeed be a huge story.
It is suspected that Russia, China, and possibly Iraq have access to smallpox. And if they do, it could certainly have spread. I can't imagine that the Chinese would be stupid enough to give their Pakistani friends smallpox bacillae. But they gave them nuclear warheads and missiles to deliver them, so anything is possible. Also there are a lot of former Russian germ warfare scientists who are at loose ends and might be bought with Arab money. The U.S. has tried to keep them employed, but there are always loose ends.
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posted on
06/09/2002 1:49:35 PM PDT
by
Cicero
To: Dog Gone
Yep. Or cowpox - that's the variant the milkmaids got and where Jenner got the idea to use scrapings of cowpox to formulate his smallpox vaccine.
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posted on
06/09/2002 1:49:47 PM PDT
by
Endeavor
To: Dog Gone
this would be front page headlines around the entire world.Because there would be many deaths. Headlines would not read "Smallpox Spreading..." but rather "Smallpox deaths kills hundreds...." Chickenpox is pretty scary in a medically isolated population.
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posted on
06/09/2002 1:51:15 PM PDT
by
arthurus
To: mvonfr
Correct. It ain't on Dawn.com. What's the deal?
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posted on
06/09/2002 1:51:24 PM PDT
by
Burr5
To: ex-Texan
Smallpox, chickenpox........whatever. The real tragedy here is that these people are not represented by any government at all. Mushareff and his ilk are spending everything on nuclear arms, while the people still live in the twelfth century. With all the money squandered by this "government," there should BE no epidemics. It just proves that they're simply not evolved enough to have nuclear capabilities.
Thought you had a dreaded project to work on.......playin' hooky??? <{;o)
To: ex-Texan
Sometimes the most startling things start out as short reports by a local reporter......
But I doubt that this guy knows what he's talking about.
To: ex-Texan
Interesting post. I read somewhere that even one CONFIRMED case of smallpox would be evidence of bioterrorism. Hope developements are in the news, regarding this.
To: Dog Gone
It HAS to be chickenpox, not smallpox.
Agreed.
Notice also that no fatalities are mentioned.
To: Dog Gone
If it truly was smallpox, this would be front page headlines around the entire world. I seem to remember the first case of Anthrax here in this country the health officials and media tried to pass it off as the editors' trip into the woods.
This is probably Chicken Pox, but I have to say the health authorities would probably try to down play any real Smallpox outbreak.
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posted on
06/09/2002 1:53:46 PM PDT
by
abner
To: ex-Texan
OK. Nevermind. Thanks for the direct link. I can't believe they'd bury this in the "Local" section, and I hadn't checked there.
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posted on
06/09/2002 1:54:22 PM PDT
by
Burr5
To: Dog Gone
It HAS to be chickenpox, not smallpox. I would agree that the world media and the health organizations all around the world should be indicted for stupidity if it really is, but I would not rule it out, after what we have learned about our supposed almighty powers that are responsible for our safety.
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posted on
06/09/2002 1:54:43 PM PDT
by
OReilly
To: Burr5;ex-Texan
See post 18; thanks ex-Texan
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posted on
06/09/2002 1:55:06 PM PDT
by
mvonfr
To: Dog Gone
Smallpox used to be a childhood disease because everyone born earlier was either immune from surviving it or had died from it. It probably last occurred there 30 years ago. Everyone born since would be susceptible, i.e. not just children would be affected by smallpox now. It probably is the historically most common misdiagnosis, chickenpox.
To: Sabertooth
Well, at least we are going to fingerprint the 8,500 Middle Easterns that we allow into our country on visas every single month.
To: Joe Hadenuf
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/697237/posts
Monkeypox today
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posted on
06/09/2002 2:00:58 PM PDT
by
colgin
To: Dog Gone
The residents of Naro Banda, a rural area in the district, told this correspondent that a majority of the children in the village had suffered from smallpox a few years back. "My two brothers, Shams and Akhtar, have been afflicted by smallpox and I have appealed to the officials concerned, but they did not bother either to visit the area or take steps for controlling it," said Mukhtaj Ahmad of Naro Banda. Yeah, duh, and this smallpox incident "a few years back" involving a MAJORITY of the children would have made headlines also.
That's all they have been talking about in regard to the shortage of syrum(sp); the fact that the disease had been TOTALLY IRADICATED a long time ago.
THIS is outrageous and scary. Fortunate timing that we finally have Homeland Security well in place and ready perhaps to send a HAZMAT TIPS information sheet to the citizens, like they issue to the military, for their safety.
< /sarcasm
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posted on
06/09/2002 2:01:10 PM PDT
by
madfly
To: EggsAckley
I decided to take a run over to site where I often pick up breaking news and got stopped in my tracks.
That project is so terrible I keep putting it off and putting it off and now I'm embarassed.
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posted on
06/09/2002 2:02:11 PM PDT
by
ex-Texan
To: Sabertooth
Notice also that no fatalities are mentioned. Children die so frequently in these countries that it isn't considered worth mentioning.
Usually from gastrointestinal diseases like cholera.
I wouldn't use that to discredit the report.
It's still unlikely to be smallpox....but.....
To: Lessismore
I, clearly, was referring to the weaponized Anthrax that was supposed to be secured. The stuff that they are now doing Lie Detector tests on a thousand Fort Deitrick personal to find out how it could have become unsecured. By that argument, neither is Smallpox secured or securable.
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posted on
06/09/2002 2:03:30 PM PDT
by
OReilly
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