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A Secret Army's Vow
NEWSWEEK ^ | June 17 2002 | Zahid Hussain and Ron Moreau

Posted on 06/09/2002 8:37:55 AM PDT by lyonesse

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:36 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

THE MOOD GREW TENSE, Atif says, as soon as a major general from the powerful Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency began speaking.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: india; pakistan; southasialist; terror

1 posted on 06/09/2002 8:37:55 AM PDT by lyonesse
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To: lyonesse
Kashmiri militants, with their spectacular suicide attacks on the Indian Parliament in December and an Indian Army base on May 14, have brought the world closer to nuclear war than perhaps at any time in 40 years.

Well, except maybe the leaking of advanced nuclear weapons technology to China, which scared India into reigniting their weapons program, which scared Pakistan into demonstrating theirs. This was only stopped when the U.S. and Russia threatened to end any nuclear war between India and Pakistan.

2 posted on 06/09/2002 8:49:05 AM PDT by lepton
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To: lyonesse
And now the plea is that even the "powerful ISI" is incapable of controlling these terrorists? Note the general's "we" in "We don't have a choice..."!
3 posted on 06/09/2002 9:07:44 AM PDT by mikeIII
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4 posted on 06/09/2002 9:43:15 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: lyonesse
It would appear that the only way to deal with Islamic extremists is to kill them.
5 posted on 06/09/2002 9:59:35 AM PDT by etcetera
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To: mikeIII
“We don’t have a choice, given the tremendous pressure on Pakistan,” the ISI man said, almost apologetically. “So you are ordered to stop immediately all cross-border operations.”

As in -- we don't have a choice but to give you these orders. As the article makes clear (albeit Newsweek), the militants have a choice whether to submit. Meaning, the ISI does not control them, Indian media notwithstanding.

6 posted on 06/09/2002 11:31:22 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: DeaconBenjamin
Ok, if there weren't the "tremendous pressure", they, the ISI, would have had the choice NOT to give the orders. And encourage, perhaps?
7 posted on 06/09/2002 12:50:19 PM PDT by mikeIII
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To: etcetera
It would appear that the only way to deal with Islamic extremists is to kill them.

Now the question is....are there any who aren't extremists? I think not!

8 posted on 06/09/2002 12:56:19 PM PDT by neutrino
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To: mikeIII
Do I think that ISI encourages the Kashmiri militants? Yes.

Do I think that ISI has provided support to the Kashmiri militants? Yes.

Do I think that ISI controls the Kashmiri militants? No.

Do I think that Kashmiri militants are a creation of the ISI? No.

Do I think that ISI can stop the Kashmiri militants? No.

9 posted on 06/09/2002 1:01:21 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: lyonesse
“We will continue to fight,” says Atif. “God always creates ways for us.”

This sort of thing is high-octane fodder for those who believe that to be a Muslim is to be completely off your rocker, round the bend, froot-loopy.

In a showdown between India and Pakistan, which these "guerrillas" are trying to precipitate, Pakistan would be destroyed. So either the "gurerillas" are sub-imbecile defective, or they are knowingly working to bring about the destruction of a country of millions.

Either way, it doesn't speak well for the "guerrillas." Can't America find allies in the region that are within hailing distance of sanity and possess at least the brains God gave a flea?

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10 posted on 06/09/2002 1:32:00 PM PDT by fporretto
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To: DeaconBenjamin
The critical question is "Does the ISI want to stop the Kashmiri militants"? For that matter, does Musharraf?
11 posted on 06/09/2002 3:46:26 PM PDT by mikeIII
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To: mikeIII
Why is that the critical question?
12 posted on 06/09/2002 6:02:45 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: DeaconBenjamin
It's critical for obvious reasons. Among other things, it may help toward averting a nuclear war, for example. But never mind if you don't think it's a critical question. Care to answer it, anyway?
13 posted on 06/09/2002 6:48:19 PM PDT by mikeIII
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To: mikeIII
Why is it important to consider what the ISI WANTS to do? I do things I don't want to do all the time. Perhaps a better question is -- to what extent does Musharraf control the ISI? According to Newsweek, the ISI is making the right noises. Beyond that -- your guess is as good as mine.
14 posted on 06/09/2002 7:09:56 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: DeaconBenjamin
It need not be pure guesswork - this report says the ISI was "apologetic" about the order to stop cross-border terrorism. That's a clear indication on how committed they are - no matter what they are reported to be claiming.
15 posted on 06/09/2002 7:59:19 PM PDT by mikeIII
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