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Drug War Casualties
The Agitator ^
| 6/8/2002
| Radley Balko
Posted on 06/08/2002 1:08:28 PM PDT by fporretto
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This is a frightening story in more than one way.
As one who shares the general, and justified, horror of drug abuse, I've often felt an immense frustration at the difficulty of getting Drug War boosters to address the question, "How high a price is too much to pay for whatever benefit you think we get from the Drug War"? The story of the Semblers and their "rehabilitation" center strikes me as the sort that, were it adequately publicized, might get the country thinking.
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posted on
06/08/2002 1:08:28 PM PDT
by
fporretto
To: *WOD_list
To: fporretto
If true, sounds like some way out of touch parents.
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posted on
06/08/2002 1:53:28 PM PDT
by
TheDon
To: Fish out of Water
The "drug war" is a rotten flop whose only effect seems to be to destroy our civil liberties and cost us hundreds of billions of dollars to house and feed nonviolent offenders.
To: bloggerjohn
billions of dollars to house and feed nonviolent offendersand to house and feed their keepers and the whole bureaucratic edifice.
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posted on
06/08/2002 2:24:01 PM PDT
by
arthurus
To: fporretto
A BUMP for later reading.
To: arthurus
and to reward them for really spectacular performances. Like kicking in the doors of the wrong house at 3:00AM. When they're really on a roll,they don't manage to shoot anyone.
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posted on
06/08/2002 3:16:10 PM PDT
by
sawsalimb
To: bloggerjohn
America's national drug control policy, has been a success and has led to an overall decrease, in illicit drug use in the last 20 years, by some 40%. Society has every right to determine what regulations and restrictions are required to reduce the sale and ingestion of harmful substances like cocaine, marijuana and heroin. The American people overwhelming support interdiction and incarceration as the main efforts, in fighting the spread of drug use/abuse.
To: Reagan Man
Your statement can be applied to violence involving firearms during the same period. A reduction is not necessarily indicative of a causal relationship to increased enforcement.
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posted on
06/08/2002 6:09:52 PM PDT
by
Djarum
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To: Djarum
In this case, the decrease in overall drug use, occured in direct relationship with the increase in anti-drug funding, for law enforcement activities and adherence to strict sentencing guidelines, by the criminal justice system. In other words, the correlation exists and is obvious.
To: LindaSOG
I never said I wasn't outraged. My comments were in response, to a specific post. Look back and you'll see.
To: Reagan Man
Society has every right to determine what regulations and restrictions are required to reduce the sale and ingestion of harmful substances like cocaine, marijuana and heroin.If society = the states, and said regulations and restrictions do not violate the Constitution, we are in concert.
To: fporretto
bttt
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posted on
06/08/2002 7:32:41 PM PDT
by
Drew68
To: Reagan Man
"Society has every right ..." Society has no rights, only individuals do. But don't feel alone, many Americans are confused with such thinking, thinking government has rights, or society has rights, or animals have rights.
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posted on
06/08/2002 7:53:56 PM PDT
by
Bob Mc
To: Bob Mc
Society has no rights, only individuals do. But don't feel alone, many Americans are confused with such thinking, thinking government has rights, or society has rights, or animals have rights. Nonsense there is an absolute Societal right which is made up of the idividuals to shape that society as they see fit. That is why we have the vote.
To: Bob Mc
Society has no rights, only individuals do.Society certainly has rights. Society is made up by individuals, by the people. And the will of the people shall always prevail.
To: Texasforever; Reagan man
Nope.
Name one right listed in the BOR that applies to "society". Rights belong to individuals, not groups.
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posted on
06/08/2002 8:18:17 PM PDT
by
Bob Mc
To: Texasforever
God didn't give us the right to "shape society", God didn't give us the right "to vote". These are man made contrivings. God gave us the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, God given things are rights, not man made things.
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posted on
06/08/2002 8:22:31 PM PDT
by
Bob Mc
To: Bob Mc
Name one right listed in the BOR that applies to "society". Rights belong to individuals, not groups. Really then why in opening of court sessions the phrase "the State of (pick one) vs, John Smith" is used? Look this "society has no rights" nonsense is just a throw away phrase intended to mask the lack of any other rational argument.
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