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Drug War Casualties
The Agitator ^ | 6/8/2002 | Radley Balko

Posted on 06/08/2002 1:08:28 PM PDT by fporretto

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This is a frightening story in more than one way.

As one who shares the general, and justified, horror of drug abuse, I've often felt an immense frustration at the difficulty of getting Drug War boosters to address the question, "How high a price is too much to pay for whatever benefit you think we get from the Drug War"? The story of the Semblers and their "rehabilitation" center strikes me as the sort that, were it adequately publicized, might get the country thinking.

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Francis W. Porretto
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1 posted on 06/08/2002 1:08:28 PM PDT by fporretto
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To: *WOD_list
*Index Bump
2 posted on 06/08/2002 1:29:04 PM PDT by Fish out of Water
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To: fporretto
If true, sounds like some way out of touch parents.
3 posted on 06/08/2002 1:53:28 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: Fish out of Water
The "drug war" is a rotten flop whose only effect seems to be to destroy our civil liberties and cost us hundreds of billions of dollars to house and feed nonviolent offenders.
4 posted on 06/08/2002 1:56:02 PM PDT by bloggerjohn
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billions of dollars to house and feed nonviolent offenders

and to house and feed their keepers and the whole bureaucratic edifice.

5 posted on 06/08/2002 2:24:01 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: fporretto
A BUMP for later reading.
6 posted on 06/08/2002 2:45:21 PM PDT by sweet_diane
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To: arthurus
and to reward them for really spectacular performances. Like kicking in the doors of the wrong house at 3:00AM. When they're really on a roll,they don't manage to shoot anyone.
7 posted on 06/08/2002 3:16:10 PM PDT by sawsalimb
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America's national drug control policy, has been a success and has led to an overall decrease, in illicit drug use in the last 20 years, by some 40%. Society has every right to determine what regulations and restrictions are required to reduce the sale and ingestion of harmful substances like cocaine, marijuana and heroin. The American people overwhelming support interdiction and incarceration as the main efforts, in fighting the spread of drug use/abuse.
8 posted on 06/08/2002 4:26:06 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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Your statement can be applied to violence involving firearms during the same period. A reduction is not necessarily indicative of a causal relationship to increased enforcement.
9 posted on 06/08/2002 6:09:52 PM PDT by Djarum
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To: Djarum
In this case, the decrease in overall drug use, occured in direct relationship with the increase in anti-drug funding, for law enforcement activities and adherence to strict sentencing guidelines, by the criminal justice system. In other words, the correlation exists and is obvious.
11 posted on 06/08/2002 7:25:01 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: LindaSOG
I never said I wasn't outraged. My comments were in response, to a specific post. Look back and you'll see.
12 posted on 06/08/2002 7:26:59 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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Society has every right to determine what regulations and restrictions are required to reduce the sale and ingestion of harmful substances like cocaine, marijuana and heroin.

If society = the states, and said regulations and restrictions do not violate the Constitution, we are in concert.

13 posted on 06/08/2002 7:32:07 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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bttt
14 posted on 06/08/2002 7:32:41 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Reagan Man
"Society has every right ..."

Society has no rights, only individuals do. But don't feel alone, many Americans are confused with such thinking, thinking government has rights, or society has rights, or animals have rights.

15 posted on 06/08/2002 7:53:56 PM PDT by Bob Mc
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Society has no rights, only individuals do. But don't feel alone, many Americans are confused with such thinking, thinking government has rights, or society has rights, or animals have rights.

Nonsense there is an absolute Societal right which is made up of the idividuals to shape that society as they see fit. That is why we have the vote.

16 posted on 06/08/2002 7:59:17 PM PDT by Texasforever
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Society has no rights, only individuals do.

Society certainly has rights. Society is made up by individuals, by the people. And the will of the people shall always prevail.

17 posted on 06/08/2002 8:05:04 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Texasforever; Reagan man
Nope.

Name one right listed in the BOR that applies to "society". Rights belong to individuals, not groups.

18 posted on 06/08/2002 8:18:17 PM PDT by Bob Mc
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To: Texasforever
God didn't give us the right to "shape society", God didn't give us the right "to vote". These are man made contrivings. God gave us the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, God given things are rights, not man made things.
19 posted on 06/08/2002 8:22:31 PM PDT by Bob Mc
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Name one right listed in the BOR that applies to "society". Rights belong to individuals, not groups.

Really then why in opening of court sessions the phrase "the State of (pick one) vs, John Smith" is used? Look this "society has no rights" nonsense is just a throw away phrase intended to mask the lack of any other rational argument.

20 posted on 06/08/2002 8:28:21 PM PDT by Texasforever
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