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Linux Gets Boost From Dell, Oracle
Forbes.com ^ | 06.05.02, 3:00 PM ET | Lisa DiCarlo

Posted on 06/06/2002 10:38:39 AM PDT by Redcloak

Operating Systems
Linux Gets Boost From Dell, Oracle
Lisa DiCarlo, 06.05.02, 3:00 PM ET

NEW YORK - In yet another strong show of support for the Linux operating system, market leaders Oracle (nasdaq: ORCL - news - people ), Dell Computer (nasdaq: DELL - news - people ) and Red Hat Software (nasdaq: RHAT - news - people ) today combined strengths to make the software more reliable, higher performance and easier to buy.

For the first time, Dell will resell licenses for Oracle's 9i database and application server software for Red Hat Linux. That lets customers avoid having to buy from two companies, and is a strong show of support of Linux from Dell, which made its fortune as a purveyor of Microsoft (nasdaq: MSFT - news - people ) Windows systems.

The trio is also developing more reliable Linux products for Dell's storage systems, which are actually made by EMC (nyse: EMC - news - people ). The big improvement here is that Oracle and Red Hat are developing so-called "clustering" technology for Dell servers. Typically the domain of traditional Unix, clustering is a complex way to get higher performance from a smaller number of server computers.

Oracle and Dell are both seeing growth in their Linux businesses. A Dell spokeswoman says the company expects to ship 12% "or better" of its servers with factory-installed Linux this year, up from 8% to 10% last year. International Data Group expects market revenue for Linux-based relational databases, which is what Oracle sells, to surpass Unix-based relational databases by 2006, to $6 billion.

Oracle doesn't break out product sales by platform but the company says the demand for Linux is high. A spokesperson cites its online developer network, which had 370,000 downloads of Linux-related software in the last year.

The deal is also an important win for Red Hat, which appears to be under fire from the rest of the Linux distributors. Last week, several Linux companies said they would collaborate on "standard" Linux software and distribution. Red Hat, the biggest Linux distributor, was not part of the alliance. Today's news boosted Red Hat shares nominally to $4.89 in early afternoon trading.

Linux is gaining steam everywhere but especially on Wall Street, where some information technology executives say they are demanding that their technology providers have a comprehensive Linux strategy. Microsoft is the only major technology company without one. Can it hold out forever?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Technical
KEYWORDS: dell; linux; oracle; redhat; techindex; wallstreet; windows
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To: dheretic
Debian and Slackware are very conservative distributions.

I'll say! And Slack is a pain in the butt to install. It's great once you get it up and running, though. Experienced Linux users even have problems with its installation.

61 posted on 06/07/2002 4:15:01 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: rdb3
Believe it or not, this has been cracked wide open. I'm not talking about using a corporate license which doesn't need activation. I'm talking about C-R-A-C-K-E-D! And used C# to do it on VS .NET! I couldn't believe my eyes. The culprits? Oh, just a couple of worthless "dorm-room-operating-system-using" Linux guys. ;-)

You're proud of this?
62 posted on 06/07/2002 4:15:15 PM PDT by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
Linux isn't a single distribution, dude.

But the Linux kernel is.

63 posted on 06/07/2002 4:16:31 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: Bush2000
And, likewise, I wouldn't have any problem defining Linux merely as a kernel if Linux advocates weren't so disingenuous in insisting that IIS, IE, and Office are flaws in Windows.

You mean someone actually said Office is a flaw in Windows? They must have been smoking some good stuff to make that claim.

64 posted on 06/07/2002 4:23:20 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: The KG9 Kid
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Have fun!


65 posted on 06/07/2002 4:28:32 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: rdb3
But the Linux kernel is.

rdb, let's not take this out of context. It was part of a larger discussion about OS versus middleware bugs.
66 posted on 06/07/2002 4:29:39 PM PDT by Bush2000
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To: rdb3
You mean someone actually said Office is a flaw in Windows? They must have been smoking some good stuff to make that claim.

How many times have we heard about flaws in Outlook being attributed to Windows? I've lost count.
67 posted on 06/07/2002 4:30:16 PM PDT by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
You're proud of this?

Uhh... Did I say that I was proud of it? There's no reason for me to be proud. I didn't do it.

68 posted on 06/07/2002 4:31:18 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: Bush2000
How many times have we heard about flaws in Outlook being attributed to Windows? I've lost count.

It makes no sense to say that Outlook's troubles are related directly or indirectly to the Windows OS. Anyone who said this was being either disingenuous, or was/is thoroughly unknowledgeable about software.

69 posted on 06/07/2002 4:33:56 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: rdb3
OpenBeOS, not OpenBSD. :]
70 posted on 06/07/2002 4:36:32 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: rdb3
It makes no sense to say that Outlook's troubles are related directly or indirectly to the Windows OS. Anyone who said this was being either disingenuous, or was/is thoroughly unknowledgeable about software.

These are the same people who use terms such as "M$" and "Windoze"...
71 posted on 06/07/2002 4:41:23 PM PDT by Bush2000
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To: Redcloak; dheretic; B Knotts; knitebane; unix
This news is bittersweet to me. While I'm a serious Linux (Redhat 7.3) user, I absolutely deplore Larry Ellison and Sun Microsystems.

At any rate, if this is what's needed to advance in technology to provide more choice, I'll accept it. Still can't stand Ellison, though... X-(

72 posted on 06/07/2002 4:41:42 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: rdb3
Uhh... Did I say that I was proud of it? There's no reason for me to be proud. I didn't do it.

Oh, c'mon, rdb. There was an unmistakable trace of pride in your voice when you said "a couple of worthless "dorm-room-operating-system-using" Linux guys."
73 posted on 06/07/2002 4:42:59 PM PDT by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
Oh, c'mon, rdb. There was an unmistakable trace of pride in your voice when you said "a couple of worthless "dorm-room-operating-system-using" Linux guys."

In all honesty, B2K, it wasn't pride. I was shocked, and even as I typed this in here I was shocked yet again by what I saw as I remembered it.

Seriously, pride had nothing to do with it. The "Linux guys" statement was submitted just to prove that we who are on this platform are in no way to be taken lightly. Or if you do, you do so at your own peril.

You say how Windows is blamed for this and that. You're correct in how some of it is not true. But take note how the Linux platform is pilloried as well. Hell, they call us communists because it's Open-Source!

It goes both ways. All I try to do is be fair. I mean, come on! We're only talking about software here. I don't take statements against Linux personally.

74 posted on 06/07/2002 5:02:12 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: Bush2000
You conveniently ignored the point, Mac users do not have to buy a new motherboard.
75 posted on 06/07/2002 5:29:47 PM PDT by dheretic
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To: The KG9 Kid
OpenBeOS Project
76 posted on 06/07/2002 5:31:14 PM PDT by dheretic
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To: dheretic
You conveniently ignored the point, Mac users do not have to buy a new motherboard.

There are processor limits for the motherboard, however. Is Apple gonna sell you just a motherboard and processor for your next machine?
77 posted on 06/07/2002 6:06:38 PM PDT by Bush2000
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To: rdb3
It goes both ways. All I try to do is be fair. I mean, come on! We're only talking about software here. I don't take statements against Linux personally.

I agree. And if people could be fair without resorting to this M$ and Windoze and Linsux and Whinux crap, we'd all get along a lot better...
78 posted on 06/07/2002 6:08:39 PM PDT by Bush2000
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To: The KG9 Kid
My bad!
79 posted on 06/07/2002 6:38:32 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: dheretic
You meant, Mac users CANNOT buy a new (as in faster) motherboard...
80 posted on 06/07/2002 7:03:03 PM PDT by chilepepper
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