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To: Intimidator, amore, valpal1
Just running through a few of the comments...and see yet another disagreement between those who blame the parents and those who blame the murder.

How about a little Tort analogy..making the manufactor responsible for the stupidity of others. Most conservatives tend to be against "torts" and want "torts reform". Torts is necessary in the sense that manufactors should make a safe product and be responsible for making sure the instructions for using their products are clear and concise. What gets conservatives upset is when some person has a terrible accident because he fails to follow the clear and concise correct instructions, instructions that are not vague or confusing.

It appears in this situation, *some people* are holding the VD's responsible for the stupidity of another because the parents had consensual sex with friends (no one has claimed strangers yet as far as i know) and they smoked pot. This means going against the clear and concise instructions in the guidebook for living aka bible. The instructions are NOT confusing or vague. Our guide book for living expects us to provide an environment that is good for nurturing and raising our children..that is true. It is sinning to do otherwise. We have to expect to suffer the consequences for our actions. Would God take our children away from us in such a violent way because of adultry? I don't think so...I'd like to see a scripture to back it up. satan causes sin, pain and to choose to cause sin and pain is NOT of God. The person that took the life of that child did it on his own doing. He found an opportunity and took it.

NO ONE CAN DENY that the lifestyle is disgusting beyond belief..BUT, predators prey upon victims of all ages, races, socioeconomic level and lifestyles. In fact, we can be so bold to remind everyone that the difference between the rich eccentric predator and the poor crazy predator is money and/or education.

Conservatives normally advocate personal responsibility....and that is kind of what's going on here..but the difference is they went so far as to say "not only are the parents irresponsible, but they also don't care that danielle died, that damon must have had something to do with this, the parents are faking grief, and the parents have no remorse over their actions.."

There is nothing wrong with looking at these issues, but stating them as fact is what the problem is. The bottom line is honesty while debating this issue. To not be honest and to not admit that there are other possibilities..such as the fact that even a bad parent can feel grief, is nothing more than tunnel vision, pre-conceived notions and prejudice.

831 posted on 06/07/2002 8:02:02 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Intimidator, amore, valpal1
I left a couple of points out.. conservatives get mad when the victim of his own stupidity sues the manufactor.. and the court system doesn't use the bible to make their decisions.
834 posted on 06/07/2002 8:33:31 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Intimidator, amore, valpal1
Gosh, I type too fast..I dont' think conservative necessarily get upset cuz the bible isn't used in the court system..but thought I better clarify that cuz someone might get the wrong impression.
835 posted on 06/07/2002 8:39:52 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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