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Dan Rather LIED On Larry King Show
Media Research Center ^ | June 5, 2002 | Brent Baker

Posted on 06/05/2002 10:07:37 AM PDT by PJ-Comix

Larry King asked Dan Rather on Tuesday night about his insinuation, just before Memorial Day weekend, that Attorney General John Ashcroft started flying on private aircraft last summer because he had warnings about terrorist hijackings he decided to keep secret. Rather, however, refused to admit that he had irresponsibly hurled a reckless charge, conceding only that “I don't know what the story is” but, realizing his predicament, he noted: “When you're in a hole, you don't just keep digging.”

     But Rather did as he tried to justify his specious charge: “The point I was trying to make was a larger one that it's time for us to be asking tough questions.” Rather insisted: “I thought then and believe now, it's a fair question.”

     But there’s a big difference between a tough question and hurling a charge of such a serious breach of human caring as Rather did without a scintilla of evidence for his invective.

     Below is the exchange on the June 4 Larry King Live on CNN followed by what Rather actually said on the May 22 and May 24 Imus in the Morning programs.

     King opened a segment: “Now it's time to clear something up with Dan Rather. Our mutual friend Imus is involved here. You were on Imus' show.” 
     Rather showed his uncomfortableness as he joked: “Waiter, may I have my check, please? Check please.” 
     King recounted: “It all starts with the 'I-man.’ On Imus last month, you said just before September 11th, John Ashcroft started to fly private planes, that would indicate that somebody somewhere was pretty worried. Why wasn't it shared with the public? The Justice Department denounced it as irresponsible. Ashcroft came on this show last week and said the reason he was asked to fly private was there were some personal attacks against him, fears that they had, and so they asked him to fly private.
     Rather falsely asserted: “I did not say that about him, that some of his people had attempted to do that.”

     In fact, this is what Rather stated on the May 24 Imus in the Morning: “It probably would be better for him to spend a little less time trying to, you know, sully up my reputation in some way, cover his own backside, and a little more time in let’s get this thing straight.”

     The “him” was quite clearly John Ashcroft.

     Back to King, he wondered: “What's the story?” 
     Rather: “I don't know what the story is. That when you're in a hole, you don't just keep digging. So you'll recognize my answer is in that spirit. I want the make it very clear, I have great respect for the Attorney General. I did when he was a senator. I do now. I'm very sensitive to the challenge in front of him and how hard he's working to help protect our country. 
     “And I've made that clear right the way through. The point I was trying to make was a larger one that it's time for us to be asking tough questions. It is for the press and it is for the American public. In a system such as ours or a government such as ours, it is absolutely critical. Now, I had talked to a number of people and I have talked to a number of people who were raising this question with me. It didn't just come, you know, out of my head and nobody dropped it over the transom. 
     “That some of the survivors of victims of September 11 have raised the question -- look, the government, never mind they didn't connect the dots. But they knew some things were out there moving around, and why didn't you let us know? I tried to raise this point in what I thought was a responsible way. By the way, they've never told me that they thought it was irresponsible. I never heard that until you just read it.”
     King: “That was the Justice Department.” 
     Rather: “I attempted to call the Attorney General. Was told by staff, no, you just call us and talk to us. That's the way that was handled. Never talked to him. There's a line of communication open with him. I don't have any argument with the Attorney General, and whatever he said, I take it face value and I accept that.
     “The larger point is that we need to be asking tough questions. Now, one of the questions, if you feel and the public feels he's answered the question, then that's fine by me. That we now can look back and piece some things together, and that he says that it was a threat assessment against him and I accept that. And when he got that assessment, he took the information and was able to make some protective moves for himself. I thought then and believe now, it's a fair question not so much for Dan Rather to ask, but for others to ask and for me to reflect it, well, when there was a threat assessment on the public, was as good a job done as could have been done and should have been done in letting the public knowing and let them decide whether they want to fly commercial aircraft or not? 
     “But I have no argument with the Attorney General. I did say and I do believe that, look, it's time for all of us -- it is not about me. It's about him and I think he would agree it is about the country.”

     It doesn’t help the country to have one of its most prominent TV journalists irresponsibly hurling baseless charges that could undermine the authority of the nation’s chief law enforcement officer.

     Now, for what Rather said on the May 22 and May 24 editions of Imus in the Morning.

     Appearing by phone on the May 22 Imus radio show simulcast on MSNBC, Rather charged:
     “You can certainly give a new President the benefit of every doubt about what he knew. The, you know, the New York Post had this big headline, 'Bush Knew.' Well, you know, knew what? However, increasingly there are important questions that need to be asked, but again, until recently, I would say, until the last week, nobody was asking 'em. 
     “For example, the Attorney General of the United States before, just before September 11th, started inexplicably taking private aircraft to places where normally the Attorney General wouldn't take private aircraft, you know, government planes. Well, that would indicate that somebody somewhere was getting pretty worried, but if you're going to share that with the Attorney General, you know, why wasn't it shared with the public at large?”

     Later in that show NBC’s Jim Miklaszewski had informed Imus that Ashcroft avoided commercial airlines in response to a threat on him personally.

     In a follow up appearance on Friday, May 24, to answer complaints about his groundless charge, Rather repeated the underlying thrust of it: "Now, in other words, when the Attorney General heard a threat, it was decided that, immediately and expensively, he would be taken care of on a security front. Now, I'm okay with that. Now, what some people are asking, and this is what I reported on your program, and some of the people include the relatives of victims of September 11th. What they're asking is that, okay, then when there came threats about the American flying public, there were threats bubbling up all over the place, the public was not told about that and, therefore, could not make their own decisions about their security.”

     For a complete rundown of what Rather spewed on May 24: http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2002/cyb20020528.asp#2


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Rather falsely asserted: “I did not say that about him, that some of his people had attempted to do that.”

I posted this interview transcript last night but Danny Boy's heavily medicated delivery was so boring that it made me so sleepy that this lie went right by me. Here, as quoted from this article, is what Rather actually said about Ashcroft:

“It probably would be better for him to spend a little less time trying to, you know, sully up my reputation in some way, cover his own backside, and a little more time in let’s get this thing straight.”

This is yet ANOTHER outright LIE that Rather has told recently. The other lie was when he went on the Imus show a second time to explain his smear of Ashcroft and Rather claimed that someone from the Imus show contacted him about appearing. Not true. CBS contacted the Imus show, not the other way around.

1 posted on 06/05/2002 10:07:37 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: PJ-Comix
Gosh, Dan Rather lied on TV. I am not surprised. He has made a career out of saying what he thinks people want to hear or what may get people mad. I think that the best possible situation is for Dan to realize that people know when he lies, and that people of integrity will neither grant him interviews nor pay attension to what he says. His ratings are starting to show how people are wising up to him.
2 posted on 06/05/2002 10:13:32 AM PDT by Robert357
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To: PJ-Comix
Talk about needing medication...Dan Rather is a complete nut with too many words that make no sense at all. Besides the fact that he is a liar.
3 posted on 06/05/2002 10:14:07 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: PJ-Comix
he noted: “When you're in a hole, you don't just keep digging.”

And when you are a complete A$$ hole, you just keep stepping in it, Rather!

4 posted on 06/05/2002 10:14:16 AM PDT by Teacup
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To: PJ-Comix
Remember, if Dan lied, it is not because of liberals, the Democrats or Dan rather himself, it is because he could not recall!!!!!
5 posted on 06/05/2002 10:15:10 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: PJ-Comix
Gosh Golly Gee .. wasn't Danny the same guy who thought Clinton could be a good man even though he is a lier???
6 posted on 06/05/2002 10:16:21 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: PJ-Comix
The part I wanted to highlight got knocked out of the text, here it is. This is what Rather denied saying.

The Justice Department denounced it as irresponsible. Ashcroft came on this show last week and said the reason he was asked to fly private was there were some personal attacks against him, fears that they had, and so they asked him to fly private. And then you went back on and said 'maybe it would be better for him to spend a little less time trying to sully up my reputation and cover his own backside.’”

So Rather denied accusing Ashcroft of trying to "sully up" his reputation. As you can see, Danny Boy DID make that charge.

7 posted on 06/05/2002 10:16:28 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: PJ-Comix
Dan Rather lying? Is there gambling at Rick's Cafe?
8 posted on 06/05/2002 10:17:00 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: PJ-Comix
Rather thinks Clinton is an "honest man". It is apparent that he has no concept of how to discern the truth from a lie.
9 posted on 06/05/2002 10:18:24 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Robert357
Please read my Reply #7 to see the portion of the text that got knocked out when I screwed up trying to highlight it. To sum up: Dan Rather denied ever accusing Ashcroft of trying to sully his reputation and, as you can see from his quote on the Don Imus show, that is a LIE. He DID make that accusation of Ashcroft.
10 posted on 06/05/2002 10:18:46 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: CCRM
Can you guys believe this?

Shocked, SHOCKED I tell you!!!

...;^)

11 posted on 06/05/2002 10:19:44 AM PDT by Landru
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
As we know, Rather (like Clinton) is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.
12 posted on 06/05/2002 10:19:56 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: PJ-Comix

RATHER BIASED!!?? Click on the link

13 posted on 06/05/2002 10:20:14 AM PDT by NYer
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To: PJ-Comix
Let us not be too harsh on the mentally impaired. Poor Dan is desperately tryng to hold on to his job with the Commmie Bull***t Network. He knows full well that he can get government assistance to treat his mental disabilty.

George Bush will be happy to have him given the treatment he so richly deserves./p>

14 posted on 06/05/2002 10:21:00 AM PDT by hgro
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To: PJ-Comix
As you can see, when you don't know which medication you are are taking, all kinds of odd things can come out of your mouth ;-)
15 posted on 06/05/2002 10:21:17 AM PDT by habs4ever
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To: PJ-Comix
Dan Rather lied.
Then he lied again to cover it up.
Then he lied when quizzed about it by Larry King.
(How am I doing so far?)

How exactly is this "Breaking News?" On this forum, I mean. Does this come as a huge surprise to anyone here?

(And I DON'T mean this to disparage your post!)

16 posted on 06/05/2002 10:21:47 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: PJ-Comix
Captain Dan is a liar?

Yes, Captain Dan is a liar!

17 posted on 06/05/2002 10:23:09 AM PDT by Reagan Man
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We all need to support Media Research Center with as much money as we can afford. Every $25 adds up. They are an indispensable resource.

I hate bumper stickers but I plan on using theirs anyway. "Don't Trust the Liberal Media"!

18 posted on 06/05/2002 10:23:12 AM PDT by RAT Patrol
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I think Rather is getting senile. Imagine saying Clinton is an honest man! Just shows Rather does not have all his marbles. he is one confused man lacking in credibiliy.
19 posted on 06/05/2002 10:23:53 AM PDT by Dante3
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Here is that section again including the section I accidentally deleted by screwing up with my bold highlighting. Please read this since it sums up Rather's lie perfectly:

King recounted: “It all starts with the 'I-man.’ On Imus last month, you said just before September 11th, John Ashcroft started to fly private planes, that would indicate that somebody somewhere was pretty worried. Why wasn't it shared with the public? The Justice Department denounced it as irresponsible. Ashcroft came on this show last week and said the reason he was asked to fly private was there were some personal attacks against him, fears that they had, and so they asked him to fly private. And then you went back on and said 'maybe it would be better for him to spend a little less time trying to sully up my reputation and cover his own backside.’” 
     Rather falsely asserted: “I did not say that about him, that some of his people had attempted to do that.”

     In fact, this is what Rather stated on the May 24 Imus in the Morning: “It probably would be better for him to spend a little less time trying to, you know, sully up my reputation in some way, cover his own backside, and a little more time in let’s get this thing straight.”

     The “him” was quite clearly John Ashcroft.

20 posted on 06/05/2002 10:26:31 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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