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To: staytrue
I am a resident of the city in question, I am also a Christian. I am a member of Sea Coast Grace which is adjacent to this property. We went through as similar situation 10 years ago with the City of Cypress. We worked with the city we traded our valuable retail corner for an interior odd-shaped piece of the same large continguous land Cottonwood is party to. We remained a fragrance to the City and to the community and have to this day made what I believe is a responsible impact in our community for Chirst. Cottonwood has bullied their way into Cypress, declaring the City and its Councilmembers to be "agents of Satan." That is so untrue. There are several committed Christians on the Council, who feel that as elected officials they must hold up the best interests of the City and its residents. Cottonwood bought that property full-well knowing it was not zoned for a church. They have been underhanded, combatant and quite frankly I'm ashamed of the way they have conducted themselves in our community. In my opinion they have brought shame to the name of Christ. The City has been very fair with them, offered them a sweetheart deal to trade parcels, but that never seems to hit the press. Let me assure you that this article does not paint a complete picture.
15 posted on 05/30/2002 5:48:39 PM PDT by Moomah
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To: Moomah
Cottonwood bought that property full-well knowing it was not zoned for a church.

Thanks for your balancing comments. I knew there must be more to it than the article above.

16 posted on 05/30/2002 6:02:23 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Moomah
I don't care about any issue other than I fail to see how eminent domain seizure so that Costco can use it is right. Eminemt domain is for highways, dams, canals, etc. It is not supposed to be used for Costco. If I want land to open a business, I should have to go out and buy it from an owner of his own free will. I should not be able to make you sell your house to me so that I can open a pizza shop on your property.
23 posted on 05/30/2002 10:05:52 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Moomah;sinkspur
Cottonwood bought that property full-well knowing it was not zoned for a church.
They have been underhanded, combatant and quite frankly I'm ashamed of the way they
have conducted themselves in our community.


If you haven't yet, you need to call the Hugh Hewitt Show; plays on 870AM KRLA in Los Angeles
from 3-7 PM your (PAC) Time.

Hugh Hewitt (also Professor of Constitutional Law at Chapman Univ. School of Law) and
another lawyer from the Beckett Fund (?) have been making a pretty good case against
the Cypress City Council.
Even Erwin Chemerinski (sp?), the prototypical liberal law professor from USC was
on...and seemed to come down in favor of the church, at least on the known facts.

I think the truly incindiary piece of evidence cited has been a letter from the
city council that says that the church is an accepted use, pending a use permit.
Even if this sort of legalese does give the Cypress City Council an "out",
the Council will still get an black eye for not having jumped into the legal fray while
the Church was putting together the parcels of they wanted to use.

I'm no lawyer, so I hope I've conveyed what I've heard with reasonable fidelity.

If you think you have a true "smoking gun" to support the Cypress City Council,
I encourage you to call Hewitt's show and get it out into the public.
38 posted on 05/31/2002 2:47:47 PM PDT by VOA
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