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TAAS Reveals New Handgun, Rifle
Jerusalem Post ^ | 30 May 2002 | Arieh O'Sullivan

Posted on 05/30/2002 12:33:01 AM PDT by fella

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To: Joe Brower
You guys go ahead. I'm not interested in anything that I can shoot my own left hand off with.
21 posted on 05/30/2002 10:21:32 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: Eugene Tackleberry
Why does this rifle have a "trigger" guard that encompasses the entire grip? Seems kind of dangerous to me if you're trying to quickly graps the rifle and get to the ready position.

Seems to be the coming thing, as per the French FAMAS *Clarion and the Steyr AUG/USR:




22 posted on 05/30/2002 10:24:42 AM PDT by archy
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To: archy
(re: photo of smiling young lady)
What you trying to do...get us a co-ed U.S. Army field force?
LOL!
23 posted on 05/30/2002 10:26:55 AM PDT by VOA
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To: OKSooner
You guys go ahead. I'm not interested in anything that I can shoot my own left hand off with.

I don't reckon you'd be interested in something along these lines, then:


24 posted on 05/30/2002 10:28:27 AM PDT by archy
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To: archy
Bummer! If that's what they're offering, it's barely even close. Dragamundo!

What is so hard about just offering the real deal. Jeez!

25 posted on 05/30/2002 10:45:37 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: VOA
re: photo of smiling young lady)
What you trying to do...get us a co-ed U.S. Army field force?
LOL!

It seems to be a popular idea elsewhere. I don't know about co-ed, but it seems that our women ought at least be able to shoot back at their enemy counterparts.

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26 posted on 05/30/2002 10:45:43 AM PDT by archy
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To: OKSooner
Er, ummm... OK. If you would have a problem there, then you're right -- you shouldn't own one. I will have no such difficulty.
27 posted on 05/30/2002 10:46:31 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: eyes_only
Actually, I do some things with different hands. I don't consider myself "fully" ambidextrous, I just have to do some things left handed for some reason.
My natural father was a southpaw and I probably got it from him.
28 posted on 05/30/2002 10:47:27 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: archy
...it seems that our women ought at least be able to shoot back at their enemy counterparts.

I agree absolutely...but I'll modify my expert witness' do give his testimony, even though
he was talking about some male shooters...

From the movie "Magnum Force"
Harry Callahan: Tell you something. If the rest of you could shoot like them,
I wouldn't care if the whole damn department was queer co-ed.

29 posted on 05/30/2002 10:57:14 AM PDT by VOA
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To: archy
Hot-Cha Momma! Whoooooo Wheeee! That's what I call a real pistol pack'n momma. Ole Billy-Jeff would't dare do anything to her and tell her to put ice on it.
30 posted on 05/30/2002 11:03:23 AM PDT by fella
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To: Joe Brower
Bummer! If that's what they're offering, it's barely even close. Dragamundo!

What is so hard about just offering the real deal. Jeez!

I don't know about that- I'm quite found of the Magul, and the reliability of the Galil even in the worst of conditions is such that the shorty *Glilon* version remains the issue weapon for Israeli tank crews, having replaced the venerable Uzi SMG.

But I'm after a good carbine for use on my motorbike, and ambidex or left-hand operation is a highly desirable feature. If necessary, I'll use a lever-action, not at all a bad choice, but a semiauto would be nicer.

-archy-/-


31 posted on 05/30/2002 11:04:58 AM PDT by archy
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To: in the Arena
"This is how those crazy Americans like to walk around, so we added that feature," said Eitan Shimi, the designer of the pistol.

You beat me to it. This is a foul slander, a horrible canard, and its author should be condemned to carrying a pearl-handled Lorcin for the rest of his days. In a fur-covered external holster. With a trigger lock.

Cocked, locked, and ready to rock. God bless John Moses Browning...

32 posted on 05/30/2002 11:05:34 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: archy
On a motorbike? Gnarly!

As for the Glilon, yeah, it's very cool. So many toys, so few $$$... $;-)


33 posted on 05/30/2002 11:10:42 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: Billthedrill; fourdeuce82d
God bless John Moses Browning...

A moment of silence...

34 posted on 05/30/2002 11:14:29 AM PDT by in the Arena
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To: Joe Brower
Cool. You run out and buy one when Barrett starts making them and let us know how you like it. I'll just keep my collection of M1's.
35 posted on 05/30/2002 11:27:26 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: in the Arena, fourdeuce82d, billthedrill
And another moment of silence for John Garand, as long as we're on the subject...
36 posted on 05/30/2002 11:29:36 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: OKSooner
I'll just keep my collection of M1's.

Got a couple of them, too. From the CMP; nothing better than having such a nice rifle delivered right to your door! Damn fine rifles. Afer using mine for a day, my brother went and bought one, too.

John Garand was indeed a genius.

37 posted on 05/30/2002 11:33:49 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: Eugene Tackleberry
"Why does this rifle have a "trigger" guard that encompasses the entire grip? Seems kind of dangerous to me if you're trying to quickly graps the rifle and get to the ready position." - Eugene Tackleberry

More and more "operators" have taken to wearing gloves while in combat. Whether the gloves are the thicker ones for protection against cold, or the thinner ones for protection against abrasion, they tend to fill up a standard trigger guard rather quickly. By enlarging the trigger guard to protect the entire front surface of the grip, they made it easier to get the gloved hand (WITH FINGER OFF OF THE TRIGGER UNTIL ON TARGET!!) into a firing grip. The M-16 rifle has a hinged trigger guard that is supposed to allow for safer "glove-handed" firing - works "okay" with thin gloves, but not with heavy "anti-frostbite" type winter gloves. With heavy gloves and an M-16 off safe, the risk of an unintended discharge is high - hence the reason we used to cut the index finger off of the old D3 gloves when operating in a cold environment.

Regards,

38 posted on 05/30/2002 11:59:32 AM PDT by Raven6
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To: fella
"Any clown can open up a guard business, pack a few targets in the back of a van, and teach people how to shoot at the local garbage dump," said Ami Maor, director-general of the academy."

Methinks Ami must know someone in the FAA.....

39 posted on 05/30/2002 12:11:39 PM PDT by tracer
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To: Joe Brower
On a motorbike? Gnarly!

As for the Glilon, yeah, it's very cool. So many toys, so few $$$... $;-)

The teardrop Enduro saddlebags on my old BMW allowed for an overall length of no more than 21 inches max, which meant that with a 16-inch barrel, there was room for a rifle with an action no more than 5 inches long, unless I went with something with a removable barrel- not the best way to get consistant good accuracy. Neither a #4 Enfield, US .30 carbine nor AR15 action was short enough, so my initial temporary pick was a rifled-bore 870 with dismountable barrel, followed by a semi-Uzi carbine, not bad, but hardly offering the serious rifle performance I wanted.

My next two candidates were a WWII Johnson semiauto rifle, which had a detatchable barrel all right, and to which a folding stock could be adapted, or a Steyr AUG, at that time running around $250. Another possibility was a Remington 740 or 742 rifle with the folding stock from an 870 shotgun fitted- they interchange okay, though the trigger guard takes a little rework on some.

Since then, a pal has gotten that bike and I'm working on another one, with the saddlebag/pannier possibilitiesnot finalized yet; obviously, something a bit longer across the diagonal is desirable. And now that the RobArms M96 *Expeditionary Rifle* with it's quick-change barrel is available, that too is a possible choice.

But it beats my high school days when my answer was a shoulder-stocked Mauser *Bolo* in the underseat toolbox of my 500 Triumph. Ah, them were the days.... -archy-/-


40 posted on 05/30/2002 2:20:26 PM PDT by archy
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