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To: donozark
...Veterans are akin to looters?

Veterans who sustain injury while defending this country should have access to medical care (as a condition of their enlistment) in private hostpitals which have won government contracts through the competitive bidding process. The costs should come out of the defense budget.

Heard about the nurse just arrested for murdering up to FORTY veterans at Columbia,MO VAH? Heard about the maggots found in the dead patient at KC VAH? Heard about the maggots found in a LIVING patient at Columbia VAH?

What, you actually expect a government run hostpital to function properly? Since when has any government program delivered on its promises? Where is the accountability? Who is responsible? Who is held to answer for the failures? Where is the incentive to improve product and service or lose business to a competitor?

...to compare present day America to days gone by may be interesting, but not practical. To compare drugs of the past to today's drugs is to demonstrate zero knowledge of same. We are talking current day here...

Ok, let's talk about the present. When did cocaine, crack, and Extacy begin to appear on the market in massive quantities? Was it before or after the WOD?

And I did say "implemented." Please re-read my statement. Prior to WOD the statutes re:drugs were virtually non-existant. I asked where your statements, if not THEORY, were IMPLEMENTED?

That's like asking me to identify where free-market capitalism was implemented to prove to you that it works. How does one implement free-market capitalism? You can repeal laws which stifle it. But, that isn't implementing it. So, I did answer your question. Prior to the WOD there was no gang warfare over drug turf, no drive-by shootings, no drug pushers on playgrounds, no massive government surveillance, no midnight raids by SWAT teams, no asset forfeiture, no overcrowded prisons, and no epidemic of drug abuse.

...you...asked why someone would...make hootch when they could buy it in a store?...the same reason I make home made wine when I could buy wine in a store. It's BETTER!!!

That's great. How is that a crime?

Ever tried EVERCLEAR? Probably closest thing on legal market to "shine," "moonshine," "hootch," etc.

I don't consume anything alcoholic because it causes lethargy.

131 posted on 06/06/2002 3:08:30 PM PDT by Alan Chapman
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To: Alan Chapman
Where/when did I say making wine was a crime?

Which came first? The chicken or the egg? You claim drug problems arose as a result of WOD? Why would there have been a WOD declared if the problem was non-existant? Are you saying it is WOD and not the actual drugs that are causing the problem?

Again, you are skirting my Q. Are you and attorney? Very evasive. I asked where YOUR statements/theory were implemented.Not talking free-market capitalism. Asking about your statements/theory on drugs.

I'll accept your revision/refinement of your original remarks re:Veterans. No problem. Actually, we are pretty close together on it. My medical care in Army Hospital? Excellant. VAH? I'd rather withhold comment...of course I have had a couple of bad experiences in civilian hospitals, but one has redress there.

Alcohol causes lethary but drugs don't?

135 posted on 06/06/2002 5:59:55 PM PDT by donozark
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