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FBI chief (Mueller) skewed Sept 11 facts
telegraph.co.uk ^ | May 28, 2002 | London Telegraph

Posted on 05/28/2002 12:21:12 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner

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To: Texasforever
LOL. But God hears our prayers too, and I do believe when it comes to nightly prayers, there are a lot of us too. God Bless America, and God Bless those loyal public servants that the nation -- even Florida -- has given us! I am so humbly thankful that Bush won the presidency.
81 posted on 05/28/2002 8:27:27 PM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: McGavin999
It is not nice of you to equate people burning the flag and spitting on soldiers with anyone that wants accountablity of the government.

Give it up. I dont want more deaths because of incompetence.

82 posted on 05/28/2002 8:28:33 PM PDT by Native American Female Vet
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To: cake_crumb
ROFL cake_crumb. Nice name too. Yeah, I know. But just because you *know* the Negative Ones just *have* to bash doesn't mean you should let defamation of a good Republican name go unchallenged. Much too often, we eat our own. But that was a nice posting and made me smile.
83 posted on 05/28/2002 8:35:24 PM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: Native American Female Vet
It is not nice of you to equate people burning the flag and spitting on soldiers with anyone that wants accountablity of the government

Funny, that's what all those hippies claimed too, they just wanted accountability of the government. You didn't answer my question about fighting with your team while under fire. I guess that answers my question though, since you don't see the difference. You don't want accountability, you want your way. You think throwing a public temper tantrum will accomplish something. Instead you demoralize those who are on the front lines trying to save our lives. How about supporting them for a change instead of trying to demolish the agency they work for? Things aren't going to change overnight. It takes time to figure out who's good at their job and who's just good at making themselves look good.

You are making accusations about someone when you don't have absolute proof. You have rumor and you have inuendo and you're willing to destroy a man's reputation on those slim facts, and you are willing to destroy the moral of those who are putting their lives on the line to find the people who are trying to kill us.

Focus on the terrorists, we'll clean house when the time is right. For now, he seems to have some good ideas for streamlining the agency and right now, that's what's important.

84 posted on 05/28/2002 8:39:32 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Native American Female Vet
He has stated on this forum he is a DEMOCRAT.

You're a damned liar and if your information regarding my political leanings is any indication you're a damned fool as well. Don't slander me any more witch.

85 posted on 05/28/2002 9:21:10 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
You're a damned liar and if your information regarding my political leanings is any indication you're a damned fool as well. Don't slander me any more witch.

She does seem to "misspeak" alot.

86 posted on 05/28/2002 9:23:00 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
I've been called a lot of things here at Free Republic but the only one I absolutely will not tolerate is that word the witch conjured up.
87 posted on 05/28/2002 9:27:30 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: McGavin999
You want to forget what FR is about fine, but dont you dare question or imply anything about my patriotism and loyalty to this country.

Lives are in danger and if you want to overlook things and people that contributed to where we are now. Fine, I wont.

When the Clinton administration was in power, we commented on their every move. Now you want me to close my eyes. Well I wont because the names of the people running the government continue to remain the same.

I have posted many threads and research I have done on Mueller and so have others. There is nothing I can post or anything I can say that would be proof enough for someone like you..So here is a reminder of what FR is about.

"Free Republic is an online gathering place for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web. We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America."

88 posted on 05/28/2002 10:04:58 PM PDT by Native American Female Vet
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To: jwalsh07
I am pretty sure I saved it..Let me look. BB
89 posted on 05/28/2002 10:08:04 PM PDT by Native American Female Vet
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To: Native American Female Vet
"Free Republic is an online gathering place for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web. We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America."

And it is not a gathering place for every kook conspiracy theory that can be dreamed up either. You and your little clack have been posting direct accusations that this government LET 911 happen. If you think that will go unanswered then you are sadly mistaken.

90 posted on 05/28/2002 10:10:04 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: FreeTheHostages
Lordy, girl. Why don't you just get down on your knees and kiss the butt of the nearest government employee? Sing a verse of "My Heroes Have Always Jailed Cowboys". Government worshippers make me puke.
91 posted on 05/29/2002 2:49:45 AM PDT by Twodees
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To: jwalsh07
The other is from the feebie in Mn which tells me nothing. Mueller stated that if they had known about the attack the FBI could have stopped it. They never knew about the attack and neither did Agent Moxley. Whats the point to that particular post?

Careful...you may be spending too much time here...I problem I have had myself at times. ;-)

You appear to have confused Agent Rowley with Martha Moxley???? Anyhow, I take your criticism of the sources of the criticism of Mueller seriously. The WSJ article is just for interest, relating to what a usually reasonable and reliable conservative publication thought prior to his becoming Director.

The Rowley comments, though, are of concern, certainly indicating that he, Mueller, was shading the facts to 'protect' the Bureau. I agree they are not determinative and as I said, I don't blame him at all for the failures of the Bureau prior to 9/11.

Life was simpler in some ways when we could all focus on the corruption of the Clintons, wasn't it? We still agree more than we disagree.

Regards.

92 posted on 05/29/2002 3:32:17 AM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: miamimark
That's what I want to know also, just what rock is Louis Freeh is hiding hiding under today.

Does anyone know his whereabouts ???

93 posted on 05/29/2002 3:52:44 AM PDT by Donald Stone
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To: Salvation
Does anyone know when Mueller took over the FBI Directors job?

September 10, 2001. That is why this story does not make sense. How could he have skewed facts if he was there only one day before 911?

No one is accusing him of being responsible for the investigation "SNAFUs" prior to 9/11. Agent Rowley is pointing out in her memo that there were SNAFUs, and that his testimony before congress about that was inaccurate. She then goes on to name some of the problems encountered in the investigation and suggests some ways they could be remedied.

Since she says in her memo that she had previously sent this information to him through channels, people are arguing about whether he knew these things when he testified before congress or not.

You can read the part of the 13-page memo that was published in TIME on this thread. Coleen Rowley's Memo to FBI Director Robert Mueller. The entire portion that has been made public can be found in reply #10.

94 posted on 05/29/2002 4:01:02 AM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: Lion's Cub
No one is accusing him of being responsible for the investigation "SNAFUs" prior to 9/11. Agent Rowley is pointing out in her memo that there were SNAFUs, and that his testimony before congress about that was inaccurate. She then goes on to name some of the problems encountered in the investigation and suggests some ways they could be remedied.

Since she says in her memo that she had previously sent this information to him through channels, people are arguing about whether he knew these things when he testified before congress or not.

Bump your excellent to the point summary of the concern about Mueller in this matter.

95 posted on 05/29/2002 5:01:13 AM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: RJCogburn
You appear to have confused Agent Rowley with Martha Moxley????

I knew as soon as I posted. I live in CT and was listening to the local news as I was typing. Apparently, I am easily distracted eh? :-}

Have a good one.

96 posted on 05/29/2002 5:08:55 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Native American Female Vet
You don't need to tell ME what FreeRepublic is about. I've been here fighting for what we stand for every day since April 1998. We also stand for TRUTH. There is something corrupt about spreading inuendo and pretending it's truth that is EXACTY what we're fighting against. You have proof, anti up! Let's see your proof. And I'm not accepting the mutterings of the conspiracy theorists.

I have no idea about Mueller, if he's corrupt he'll be taken down. What I'm arguing against is the people who are running around here tarring everyone who works for the federal government with the same smarmy brush. Perhaps you can answer a question for a change, who benefits from weakening the FBI, us or the terrorists?

97 posted on 05/29/2002 6:43:08 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: jwalsh07
I am not a liar, you know it and I know it.

I cant find it at the moment and will continue to search for it and the second I do I will post it. It is a little hard with all the threads that have been deleted to find some things around here anymore.

98 posted on 05/29/2002 7:43:34 AM PDT by Native American Female Vet
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To: Texasforever
Everyday it is drip drip drip with information about what they did know. The government has admitted they didnt connect the dots and that more attacks ar going to happen and there is nothing that can be done. All this while incompetent people are still in high places.

It does not take a kook to figure out something is very wrong.

When you and others have to sink to questioning peoples loyalty and patriotism to this country when questions are asked and have proven time and time again you will put politics over conservative principle and will protect your guys at all costs, that makes you no better than the liberals that do the same.

99 posted on 05/29/2002 8:01:18 AM PDT by Native American Female Vet
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To: Lion's Cub
"No one is accusing him of being responsible for the investigation "SNAFUs" prior to 9/11. Agent Rowley is pointing out in her memo that there were SNAFUs, and that his testimony before congress about that was inaccurate. She then goes on to name some of the problems encountered in the investigation and suggests some ways they could be remedied."

Exactly right. I will add though that Mueller has a history of covering up 'snafu's'for the governemnt.

100 posted on 05/29/2002 8:07:04 AM PDT by Native American Female Vet
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