[PistolPaknMama]

Your ancestors believed in limiting that self-government and self-determination to some human beings, with the rest to be considered property,

So did our Founding Fathers and those before them who arrived with slaves. This was an acceptable practice a long time ago. It is not acceptable now, not even among the "neo" confederates. I believe you might try your own trip to the eye doctor and worry about your own defects.

[Poohbah]

So did our Founding Fathers and those before them who arrived with slaves. This was an acceptable practice a long time ago. It is not acceptable now, not even among the "neo" confederates. I believe you might try your own trip to the eye doctor and worry about your own defects.

I am pointing out that you don't believe in the founding principles Confederacy as defined by the original Confederates. Slavery was defined as the raison d'etre for the Confederacy.

That makes you a neo-confederate, not a confederate. And that was my point.