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School that was center of plagiarism controversy losing personnel
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Posted on 05/25/2002 3:09:13 AM PDT by jonefab
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Christine Pelton was honored by the Kansas House of Representatives with three standing ovations. This honor was sponsored by Representatives Toplikar R- Olathe, Faber R-Brewster, and Howell R-Fort Scott.
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posted on
05/25/2002 3:09:13 AM PDT
by
jonefab
To: jonefab
Good - serves that school district right. This should have been a non-decision. I know if I did that(cheat) my parents would have refused to let the teacher change me grade from failing to passing. I was caught cheating one time and my Dad was so far up my rear I .... (insert humor hear).
I watched a news special about this incident and some of the comments the parents made were just sick: "Oh it's not kid's fault you did not give enough time for project completion or that the assignment was to hard or you didn't explain to my child that he/she could not cheat." I was amazing what these parents were saying.
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posted on
05/25/2002 3:42:16 AM PDT
by
Rays_Dad
To: Rays_Dad
Last night as I was about to nod-off, a news show on either ABC or CBS announced that they would have an interview with Pelton next week. I tried to find the date and information on the network web-sites but couldn't seem to find it.
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posted on
05/25/2002 3:55:07 AM PDT
by
jonefab
We are not "pals" to our kids, we are parents. Some mothers and fathers don't know the difference.
To: catonsville
One the subject of being a pal to kids I was watching a special by Bill O'R. about kids today. I live in Japan and think the special was rather old. Anyhow, he and the laundry list of psychologists and psychiatrist drove that point home: You can have a good time with your kids but you are not your children's friends. Jeez, it really makes sense to me, but then again maybe I am in the minority.
Chip
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posted on
05/25/2002 4:07:03 AM PDT
by
Rays_Dad
To: KC Burke
Ping.
To: jonefab
"I wouldn't tie it all to what happened with the botany project," Rooney said. Well selected words you buffoon.
The teachers who resigned show they are truly concerned about education and not looney (rhymes with Rooney) acquiescence to demands made by parents of students who have the moral fiber of a pimp.
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posted on
05/25/2002 5:59:35 AM PDT
by
EODGUY
To: jonefab
You know...if an evil axis really wanted to destroy this country...all they would have to do is lower standards to the point that a high school diploma was meaningless. Turn a blind eye to cheating so that even the minimal standards mean nothing. Hand out A's like popcorn so that there is no sense of accomplishment - and no incentive to work.
Yes, they could do that. How fortunate that they haven't figured it out! No, that will never happen here.
Oops!
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posted on
05/25/2002 6:05:02 AM PDT
by
neutrino
To: catonsville
Absolutely! I have even told my children on numerous occasions "I am not your friend, I am your father. My job is a helluva lot more important than a friend!"
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05/25/2002 6:09:48 AM PDT
by
dpa5923
To: jonefab
I heard someone accuse the resigned teacher that she only did it because she was pregnant. She denied it. Yeah someone finally put principal over politics!
As a parent, I have always told my kids the teachers are the boss, the final word, rarely do I go against the teachers if there is a dispute. I will explain that people can be total jerks but that is life, and it gets them ready for a jerk boss and co-workers in the future.
I have had alot more problems with parents of my kids friends than teachers, administrators or the kids themselves, there are alot of bad parents out there. I am not a teacher, just a parent with kids in public school for 15 years, a very small public school, graduating class of 2000, 18 grads.
To: EODGUY
Hi EOD, you a gramps yet?
The teachers who resigned show they are truly concerned about education and not looney (rhymes with Rooney) acquiescence to demands made by parents of students who have the moral fiber of a pimp.
What concerns me a great deal here is how the parents and the guilty students reacted. They had no ethics or honor. Parents expected the grades to be changed, and the little cheating monsters won a huge victory as to actually runs the school, and you can bet that it isn't the honorable teachers!
I hope those teachers that are leaving are able to find work and institutions that welcome edcuation and refuse to allow parents/students to run the school. Of course, they will have to go into private schools, not public indoctrination centers.
What about the kids that did to the work, that did complete the assignment correctly? They have got to be hugely disappointed that all their hard work was for naught. After all, 25 of their fellows got passing grades for doing nothing.
To: RikaStrom
Miss Rika, you have very eloquently expressed my sentiments as well. My daughter and her husband are both teachers and are astounded at the number of parents who display a lack of morality, ethics and honor by supporting their children who possess the same shameless lack of honesty.
I hope that the teachers who resigned are able to find employment in a district that emphasizes education and honesty in the creation of tomorrows citizenry.
Thanks for asking, but I'm still a dad (the greatest word a man can hear) but not a grand dad, yet. We're on full alert, packed, suited up and ready to go the minute the phone rings.
God bless,
EODGUY
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05/25/2002 6:41:51 AM PDT
by
EODGUY
To: jonefab
He also said Thursday that the number of students accused of plagiarism was 25, not 28, as has been widely reported. Oh, that's different. I feel so much better now.
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To: thirst4truth
someone finally put principal[sic]
over politics!That was deliberate, right?
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posted on
05/25/2002 11:39:54 AM PDT
by
gcruse
To: jonefab
Notice carefully:
It was Republicans who stand behind this humble hero teacher. Republicans who gave her a standing ovation.
The democrats are incapable of understanding any of this since they are utterly clueless as to the significance of one small person making a courageous and ethical stand.
Some voters may however get the the point. See you in November!
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posted on
05/25/2002 2:50:52 PM PDT
by
friendly
To: jonefab
My husband is a teacher and says some of his fellow teachers have changed kids' test scores on final exams. The teachers want to make sure that they do not have too many students fail the course or the final. Some school districts seem to care more about how it appears their students are doing, than they care about how the students are actually doing.
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posted on
05/25/2002 2:54:51 PM PDT
by
syriacus
To: jonefab
Just a thought -- I wonder what colleges and universities think about this particular school, due to the well-publicized cheating scandle. If I were a parent of a non-cheating child, I would seriously consider removing him/her from this school. I would think that a student at a school whose fellow students exhibit such poor scholarship (and whose board members support that type of thing) would have a difficult time competing for placement at a good college or university.
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posted on
05/25/2002 3:23:26 PM PDT
by
ladylib
To: ladylib; Rays_Dad;catonsville;TroutStalker;KC Burke; EODGUY;neutrino;dpa5923;thirst4truth...
Quote Critics said the board's action tarnished the district's academic integrity. A coalition of deans at Kansas State University accused the board of encouraging and rewarding dishonesty. The deans said in a letter to the school board that the university's trust in Piper High School had been shaken. Unquote
read articleQuote "I'd lost the kids' respect. I heard kids talking about that if they didn't like what I did in the future, they could go to the board of education and they could change that," she said in an interview last week. More troubling to the community, Piper students have also been mocked. At an interscholastic sporting event involving Piper, signs appeared among the spectators that read "Plagiarists."
Students have reported that their academic awards, such as scholarships, have been derided by others. And one girl, wearing a Piper High sweatshirt while taking a college-entrance exam, was told pointedly by the proctor, "There will be no cheating." All 12 deans of Kansas State University signed a letter to the Piper school board that including the statement: "We will expect Piper students ... to buy into [the university's honor code] as a part of our culture. Unquote Education Week article
Quote The story has received national attention. The CBS news program 48 Hours is expected to broadcast a segment on an upcoming show, according to Pelton and others who said they had been interviewed. Pelton said a Piper Board of Education member "got in my face" before a board meeting Tuesday because he was upset about her participation in the movie. She declined to identify the board member. Unquote Education Week article
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posted on
05/26/2002 6:27:04 AM PDT
by
jonefab
To: jonefab
In one sense this is an old story. Parents have always applied political pressure on teachers, officials, and school boards to change their children's grades. What makes this story different is the scope, and the fact that there was so much media attention placed on the outcome.
There is one constant, and that is no matter what the public institution, when the public gets an inside view of our public institutions we rarely see the will to withstand political pressure and stand on moral and ethical principle.
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