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Sick of "terror threats"
BlogSpot.com ^ | 5/21/02 | Anne Wilson

Posted on 05/22/2002 1:09:42 PM PDT by browardchad

 
Sick of "terror threats:" If there's a serious risk, *do* something. How about leaving the little old ladies and toddlers alone at the airports? Get down and p-r-o-f-i-l-e some Middle-Eastern men. I'm sure El-Al would be glad to provide a consultation.

How about immediately suspending all student visas from suspect countries? A visa is a *temporary* permission to stay in a country. It is a privilege, not a right. Send those who are already here home, and don't issue any more to those from the list of "usual suspect" countries.

How about suspending travel visas from suspect countries? Yes, I know they can just drive in from Canada - maybe a little *profiling* on the part of our border guards might be appropriate at this point?

I'm sure the Saudis will really squawk, but it's time for the Republican administration to answer the question: Which side are you on? The House of Saud, which thinks Jews put Muslim children's blood into Passover bread, or 280 million Americans?

Our government did some smart things on 9/11: all commercial air traffic was grounded. Dipweeds in private planes who didn't think the ban applied to them found themselves staring at the business end of F-15s. Various bridges were closed. Most important, the border with Mexico was closed.

We can act effectively when we want to. But why are we kowtowing to Abdullah and Fox - two leaders who need us far, far more than we need them?

I'm sick to hear the head of the FBI call US *genocide* bombers "inevitable." No, you pusillanimous excuse for a public servant, they're not *inevitable.* It's your JOB to make sure they're *not* inevitable.

Why are we tolerating this interference with our lives, our festivities, our right to travel to our national monuments? Closing the Statue of Liberty while allowing potential terrorists free access to our country is not only "letting the terrorists win," it's criminal and intolerable. Or it should be.

Whose rights are more important, Abdullah's, or American citizens? Whose rights are more important, the terrorist masquerading as an engineering student or tourist from Saudi Arabia, or American citizens? Whose rights are more important - the genocide bomber sneaking into our country, or American citizens who expect their government to *keep them out?*



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: fbi; terrorthreats; terrorwarnings
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Whose rights are more important?
1 posted on 05/22/2002 1:09:43 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: browardchad
They will do anything, but the right thing. Let citizens be as armed and dangerous as they want to be.
2 posted on 05/22/2002 4:35:06 PM PDT by Ragin1
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To: browardchad
...And don't forget:

Pilots can't have guns - In the event of a hi-jacking we'll let F-16's handle the situation.

Makes sense to me...

3 posted on 05/22/2002 5:29:59 PM PDT by pocat
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To: pocat
What makes armed pilots such a good idea? I don't get it.
4 posted on 05/22/2002 6:41:53 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Ragin1
Let citizens be as armed and dangerous as they want to be.

That's the ticket.

5 posted on 05/22/2002 6:45:11 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Ragin1
Let citizens be as armed and dangerous as they want to be.

Israelis carry guns. Israelis are on their guard against suicide bombers.

Israelis can't stop suicide bombers. We won't stop them either. Not all of them.

6 posted on 05/22/2002 6:53:42 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
All of these gunslingers that think their pea shooters are going to stop a human bomb should be given the chance. Yes guns are valuable tool in the hands of someone that is not daydreaming about offing a few terrorists or what may look like one to them. This crap is why the left has so much ammunition in painting conservatives with the gun-nut label.
7 posted on 05/22/2002 7:00:28 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: sinkspur
The way to stop suicide bombers is to retaliate by TOTALLY DESTROYING that which the suicide bombers love. WIPE OUT ANY and ALL who profess support for, train, donate to or willingly shelter the bombers. If the American gov't didn't restrain the Israelis I believe they would make suicide bombers very unpopular EVERYWHERE.

In case you hadn't noticed the Nazis and Imperial Japs only stopped when millions of their fellows had been killed AND they were in retreat AND they had lost hope of winning; when their choice was die or stop fighting , THEN and only then did they stop.

8 posted on 05/22/2002 7:14:09 PM PDT by hoosierham
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To: hoosierham
In case you hadn't noticed the Nazis and Imperial Japs only stopped when millions of their fellows had been killed AND they were in retreat AND they had lost hope of winning; when their choice was die or stop fighting , THEN and only then did they stop.

The Nazis and Japs were fighting because the governments of their countries sanctioned it.

What country is backing Al-Qaeda? We've already squelched the Taliban.

Open societies will never keep all undersireables out.

"Wipe 'em all out" is beer talk. Americans are going to have to be much more self-reliant, as the Israelis are. And, some of us will die.

Bush is fostering a relationship with Putin, which is the hope for the West.

If we cripple Arab oil, they'll sacrifice their sacred "Islam" in a minute for Yankee dollars.

9 posted on 05/22/2002 7:38:02 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: browardchad
...Whose rights are more important?...

All over my western city there are billboards stating:

Is the government stealing you land?
Call The Joe Blow Law Firm at 123-4567.

Let's be clear - You HAVE no rights.
You are an economic slave - and neither you, nor the pilot of your plane have the right to defend yourselves in any way.
(IMHO - If the management and pilots of a given airline decide that GUNS (horror) are now a required item, I do NOT see HOW - under the Second Ammendment - ANY jackass in the District of Comatose has ANY say in the matter whatever.)

>Next Step For Free Americans (those who desire to live) ????????<

Now pipe down, and BE VIGILANT, while you wait for the home-made nuke to detonate down the street.
Have a nice friggin' day....

10 posted on 05/22/2002 10:21:30 PM PDT by XLurk
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To: dalebert
What makes armed pilots such a good idea? I don't get it.

Hot lead in the skull of a would be hijacker.

Does that help?

11 posted on 05/22/2002 10:43:06 PM PDT by Bullish
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To: dalebert
...What makes armed pilots such a good idea? I don't get it...

Never before - in 4 1/2 years or so - have I engaged in criticizing ANYONE on this forum.

On this occasion, however, I must say, dalebert, that YOU, are an idiot.

12 posted on 05/22/2002 11:47:23 PM PDT by XLurk
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To: XLurk
Sell... these---at the range--shops!
13 posted on 05/23/2002 12:02:09 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: sinkspur
If we cripple Arab oil, they'll sacrifice their sacred "Islam" in a minute for Yankee dollars.

No, they won't.

14 posted on 05/23/2002 12:06:01 AM PDT by philetus
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To: dalebert
dalebert, I feel that I must elaborate.
Please visualize the following scenario -

United 767 flight 4328 cruising along at 33,000 feet, eastbound over Indiana, in clear weather.
Pilot Jim Terrell, commercial pilot with eleven years experience, scans the instruments, and then sips his coffee.

The cockpit door bursts open, and a middle eastern-looking man, holding a bowie knife, screams: "ALLAH IS GREAT!".

Pilot Terrell, in one swift movement, drops his coffee while at the same time reaching for the Sig 9 millimeter in the holster which is duct-taped to the left side of his seat. (Terrell is left-handed)

He quickly fires off two rounds into the intruders head - obviously dropping him to the floor of the cockpit.

After catching his breath, Jim keys the radio:

"INDY EM, this is United 4328. Terrorist event has occurred. REPEAT - Terrorist Event Has Occurred. Request priority diversion vector. Please notify Feds and body removal crew. Also, please notify United food service that we have unexpectedly run out of white zinfandel and peanuts. We SHOULD have had enough peanuts, but I think they missed us back in Salt Lake. United 4328 over."

Terrell briefly closes his eyes, and silently says a prayer, as flight attendant Murdoch, her hand shaking, sops up the coffee with paper towels.

Now, dalebert, had pilot Terrell NOT been armed; WHAT other possible scenarios can you envision?
Please be creative. You may have a future as a novelist.

PS: I'm certainly no ballistics expert, but I think that a 9 millimeter would have a hard time piercing and aircraft fuselage. But it did the job in the above scenario, didn't it?

15 posted on 05/23/2002 12:37:18 AM PDT by XLurk
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To: f.Christian
A bump to you.
16 posted on 05/23/2002 12:43:19 AM PDT by XLurk
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To: dalebert
What makes shooting down a plane full of passengers with F-16's such a good idea when at least a pilot with a gun might have a fighting chance to save the everyone's life on board?

I REALLY don't get it...

17 posted on 05/23/2002 4:48:00 PM PDT by pocat
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To: Bullish
this is your pilot please assume the fetal position while I put the bird on auto-pilot and put on my sheriff hat,after I nail the disrupter I will be passing out the hot wash cloths so please have your seats in the upright position and table trays up when I come out....over

Why can't we make the airlines pay for security aboard the planes so the pilot can pilot.

18 posted on 05/23/2002 4:53:50 PM PDT by linn37
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To: Bullish
You don't think that could backfire in any way. Like someone else getting their hands on it or maybe an imposter pilot?
19 posted on 05/23/2002 8:23:41 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: browardchad
Don't think I want you in my Army. You give up too quick.
20 posted on 05/23/2002 8:41:48 PM PDT by tbird1
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