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Russian Expert: 'Strong Suspicions' of Cuban Bio Threat
newsmax.com ^ | May 20, 2002 | Dave Eberhart

Posted on 05/20/2002 2:30:16 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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1 posted on 05/20/2002 2:30:18 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I hope Alibek has a few dozen secret service agents around him at all times. He knows a lot.
2 posted on 05/20/2002 2:32:35 PM PDT by BrooklynGOP
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Recent FR post:

West Nile Virus from Iraq Via Cuba?
3 posted on 05/20/2002 2:36:36 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Dark Wing
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4 posted on 05/20/2002 2:37:56 PM PDT by Thud
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To: BrooklynGOP
Trie’s Deadly Deals

Douglas Burton

Insight Magazine, February 2000

Clinton fund-raiser Charles Trie has admitted to the FBI that he conducted a business deal that gave Red China equipment capable of producing deadly biological weapons.

Peter Leitner, a senior Defense Department licensing analyst who specializes in export controls of dual-use technology, has reviewed Insight’s copies of the confidential FBI interviews with Trie. Leitner says the transfer of the highly sophisticated pharmaceutical-grade fermenting machine poses significant risks to U.S. security at home and abroad if used to make advanced germ-warfare products such as anthrax and botulism.

The evidence of the fermenting machine’s sale and transfer sometime in 1993 to the Changchun Biological Products Institute is alarming, according to Leitner, given that the Chinese facility has been flagged by some experts as a biological-weapons laboratory run by the People’s Liberation Army. Leitner tells Insight: “This whole affair has the classic earmarks of a Chinese military-intelligence operation.”

A summary of Trie’s depositions to the FBI reads, in part: “Trie acknowledged being a close friend of Dr. Peter Fu, a research biochemist who was chief of the toxicology branch of an FDA facility near Little Rock,” adding that “the Fus withdrew from the partnership in 1992 or 1993.” Trie also told the FBI that Zhang was present when Trie formed United Biotech and that Trie had introduced Fu to Zhang in Little Rock.

The 500-liter fermentation tank transferred to the Changchun facility would be prohibited for sale by the Department of Defense’s Militarily Critical Technologies List because it allows the manufacture of large quantities of biological agents, such as botulism or anthrax bacteria, for military purposes, Leitner says. Several 500-liter tanks of this type were discovered in Iraq and seized as contraband by U.N. Special Commission inspectors in 1991. According to government sources, China has listed the Changchun facility on the international registry of facilities producing biological or chemical agents but claims its only use at this time is for the production of pharmaceuticals such as hepatitis vaccines.

5 posted on 05/20/2002 2:44:20 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Tailgunner Joe, OKCSubmariner, Rightwing2, noswad, skemper, lavaroise
I propose the following as a test of the current truisms that Russia has abandoned the Soviet past and that the PRC are only a "strategic competitor:"

1. Immediate cruise missile strikes on Cuban military facilities.

2. Several weeks of B-52 raids on suspected bio-war facilities and critical C4I facilities (including Lourdes).

3. Naval blockade.

My thesis is that if the Cold War really ended in 1991, then no one will help Cuba, and, we'll be able to at long last depose Castro and ensure the development of a responsible regime reflective of Cuba's Spanish roots and innate (e.g. if not terrorised by autocratic Communist totalitarianism) Western, Euro-Carribean orientation. And if the ChiCOMs and supposedly reborn Russians come to the aid of Cuba, then we'll have smoked out some folks who were simply stringing us along. This is what is known as the antitdote to appeasement and Neville Chamberlainism...

Connect the dots.... awaken the giant...

6 posted on 05/20/2002 5:00:14 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Thanks for the great post!! Here's another one.

Fomenting Freedom - Circumventing Castro to reach the Cuban people***Engaging Cuba, in fact, has the unavoidable consequence of propping up the Communist dictatorship. European money that flooded in starting in the early 1990's after the fall of the Soviet Union was vital to the survival of the regime, and it gave Castro a financial shot in the arm.

European cash almost solely lines Castro's pockets because of the way the dictator has fashioned the terms of engagement. Foreign companies must establish joint ventures with the Cuban government, with a cut of the profits going to Castro. But the despot nets more cash from the labor arrangement: Workers are not employed by foreign companies; they are rented.

Companies pay Castro's machine approximately $1,000 per month per worker, in hard cash. The regime, in turn, shells out less than $20 - per month - to each worker, in pesos. In other words, 98 percent of all wages paid by foreign companies in Cuba are funneled straight to Castro.

Because Castro has been denied American cash from such joint ventures and for several other reasons, the embargo has worked, even if it hasn't dethroned him. The embargo has put Castro in a box, and has robbed him of resources to fund his extracurricular activities. As a senior administration official noted, "If Castro has to spend $40 million on food, that's $40 million he's not spending to develop biological weapons."

Despite the morally despicable conditions for joint ventures, a large number of Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill are pressing for engagement with Castro. In fairness, many simply don't understand that the communist dictatorship relies on foreign cash for its very existence, but ignorance should not be an excuse for ignorant policy.

Bush's speech may pave the way for expunging Congress's blissful ignorance, and likely will be cheered on Capitol Hill in the long run.***

8 posted on 05/21/2002 2:44:23 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: belmont_mark
As for a test of Russia's abandonment of communism and cold war hatred, I would go even further, asking Russia to help the US in imposing a political settlement with Cuba and US weapons inspectors with full access to Cuba's infrastructures (not just UN inspectors because there it is US territory directly that those purely offensive bio-weapons target). But Russia is fundamentaly opposed to political settlements until Russia's friends get their a$$es kicked and they need to be saved. Just ask them to let the Cuban exiles to recoup their losses and to reacquire their assets, and you will see how that goes with Russia's own oligarch. Of course, such weapons inspection would have to occur with some form of US military presence in the region, possibly including nuke strikes on offensive bio-facilities if a rebellion against the resolution occured on the island.

If nations want to build weapons that target effectively America, then those nations' business becomes America's business. There is no going around the need to prevent others from leveraging US politics with pointing their weapons at us. It is one thing to have a defensive force and sovereign militarisation, it is another to constantly acquire America as a target. Purely offensive bio and Chem weapons combined with Castro's overimaginative hatred of America and political vigilatism definitely fit that bill. Moreover, the fate of the Cuban exiles in Florida make the demands even more stringent on Cuba, including forcing the communist oligarch of Cuba to forego their ill acquired assets. After all, it all stems from that unresolved aggression that continues today.

9 posted on 05/21/2002 8:13:07 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: belmont_mark, sonofliberty2, HalfIrish, NMC EXP, OKCSubmariner, Travis McGee, t-shirt, DoughtyOne
1. Immediate cruise missile strikes on Cuban military facilities. 2. Several weeks of B-52 raids on suspected bio-war facilities and critical C4I facilities (including Lourdes). 3. Naval blockade. My thesis is that if the Cold War really ended in 1991, then no one will help Cuba, and, we'll be able to at long last depose Castro and ensure the development of a responsible regime reflective of Cuba's Spanish roots and innate (e.g. if not terrorised by autocratic Communist totalitarianism) Western, Euro-Carribean orientation. And if the ChiCOMs and supposedly reborn Russians come to the aid of Cuba, then we'll have smoked out some folks who were simply stringing us along. This is what is known as the antitdote to appeasement and Neville Chamberlainism...

Excellent idea. I have been supporting a US invasion of Cuba to liberate it from Communist control for the last 17 years. Cuba is a rogue state. It is also the primary state-sponsor of terror in the Western Hemisphere. Back in the mid-1980s, it was cited as one of the two main centers of terrorism in the world--the other being the PLO. If Bush wants to be true to his supposed "war on terrorism", he would support a blockade or bombing of Cuban military sites as you advocate. Of course, we all know that his war on terrorism is deeply lacking in moral clarity. Bush and Powell supported Arafat and his terrorist PLO for nearly 18 months before finally giving up on him. They tried to recruit the largest state sponsor of terror, the Islamic Republic of Iran into the "anti-terror" coalition and have done the same with terrorist state sponsors Syria and Sudan which has committed genocide against black Christians whom it also enslaves. Yet, paradoxically, the ChiCom supported government of Sudan has been praised by Bush-Powell for its cooperation in the "war against terror", which is pretty funny since the Sudanese government is itself led by terrorists. This is the kind of crap we have come to expect from the Bush-Powell foreign policy of appeasing terrorist and Communist states. Perhaps a new conservative Secretary of State would help Bush get back on track. Undersecretary John Bolton would likely be a marked improvement over the liberal globalist appeaser Colin Powell.
10 posted on 05/22/2002 7:14:41 AM PDT by rightwing2
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To: Tailgunner Joe
In my best Andy Rooney voice: Did you ever wonder why the United States doesn't jam the Cuban spy numbers broadcasts?
11 posted on 05/22/2002 7:21:00 AM PDT by fightu4it
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To: fightu4it
And while I'm on the subject: Were there any noticable changes in activity in said broadcasts prior to 9-11-01?
12 posted on 05/22/2002 7:25:10 AM PDT by fightu4it
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To: rightwing2
It is so weird to recall anything about the Blockade of Cuba in 1961.

The concern then was a different wepaon of mass destruction - Russian nukes. Why today this contemporary Cuban biothreat doesn't cause a similar reaction by the U.S. is beyond me.

13 posted on 05/22/2002 4:41:41 PM PDT by flamefront
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To: Stavka2
Hey Stavka, join the modern world. They dont make Tin foil anymore, they make Aluminum foil. Or do you guys over in Russia still use Tin?
14 posted on 05/24/2002 11:44:00 AM PDT by Orion78
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To: Orion78
Not exactly sure what the hell you're trying to say with that one. Besides, never have I defended Cuba....oh by the way:

Other recipients of Cuban biotechnology research include India, China, Brazil, Egypt, Malaysia, South Africa, Tunisia, Algeria, Great Britain, Venezuela and Mexico.

So, shall the US commense embargoes and bombing now?

15 posted on 05/25/2002 4:43:21 PM PDT by Stavka2
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To: rightwing2
I am so glad that actual adults sit in the White House and not arm chair psychoes like the bunch of you. Ever wondered on the political consequences of such stupidity? Or did the bunch of you never make it past the pretty, big explosions?
16 posted on 05/25/2002 4:45:21 PM PDT by Stavka2
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To: lavaroise
Well, there are only 120+ countries, volunteer for the military and go defend the US by invading all of them. I'm sure you'll make eager cannon fodder.
17 posted on 05/25/2002 4:46:24 PM PDT by Stavka2
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To: kcvl; Alamo-Girl; Cindy; Howlin
Sandy Berger didn't have big enough pockets to contain all this stuff we keep finding....

A summary of Trie’s depositions to the FBI reads, in part: “Trie acknowledged being a close friend of Dr. Peter Fu, a research biochemist who was chief of the toxicology branch of an FDA facility near Little Rock,” adding that “the Fus withdrew from the partnership in 1992 or 1993.” Trie also told the FBI that Zhang was present when Trie formed United Biotech and that Trie had introduced Fu to Zhang in Little Rock.

18 posted on 08/07/2004 3:01:41 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Shermy

you might want to see this clip on Charlie Trie and a Little Rock biotech firm


19 posted on 08/07/2004 3:05:39 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: piasa

Thanks for the ping!


20 posted on 08/07/2004 6:41:16 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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