[exmarine]

The people you are speaking to (and doing a good job by the way) cannot accept that morality is transcendent because of the false presuppositions that they must necessarily form in order to conform to their naturalistic/materialistic worldviews.

I find it especially amusing that people (no one in particular) who claim that truth does not exist in the ontological sense will argue to convince me of their position. In order for a relativist to even discuss the nature of truth, he must assume that there is some objective truth to be ascertained about the nature of truth. In the process, he is secretly presupposing the existence of absolute truth even as he argues against it. I love to point out this glaring contradiction and self-refutation of their position.

[Diamond]

In order for a relativist to even discuss the nature of truth, he must assume that there is some objective truth to be ascertained about the nature of truth.In the process, he is secretly presupposing the existence of absolute truth even as he argues against it.

Well said.

Cordially,