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Famed Harvard Biologist Gould Dies
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&ncid=716&e=2&u=/ap/20020520/ap_on_re_us/obit_gould ^ | 5/20/02 | yahoo

Posted on 05/20/2002 12:53:27 PM PDT by rpage3

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To: Junior
It is somewhere in the middle that group survival, and thus individual survival, is optimized.

Not according to the ants.

301 posted on 05/21/2002 6:24:08 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: general_re
Well, then he was an evolutionary success. I wonder how many students he inspired into their own evolutionary dead-ends with his fierce and outspoken atheism?

But that doesn't bother his defenders here nearly as much as the fact that he was high on socialim/Marxism.

But Marxism and atheism go together like tea and biscuits.

And I ask his deenders again, why do you mourn? Of what possible evolutonary value is there in mourning? Quit wasting your limited time and energy on fruitless endeavors. You have only so many years to satisfy the brainless, directionless, heartless god of natural selection. Do something productive.

302 posted on 05/21/2002 6:24:10 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: r9etb
Best post so far!
303 posted on 05/21/2002 6:31:03 AM PDT by Aedammair
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To: Kevin Curry
Do something productive.

I agree. People should go read Gould's books. They are company for a rainy weekend.

304 posted on 05/21/2002 6:31:25 AM PDT by Wm Bach
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To: general_re
My bust. I was led down the primrose path, I tells ya!
305 posted on 05/21/2002 6:38:24 AM PDT by Junior
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To: Kevin Curry
Ever thought in the complex play between individual and group dynamics the group composed of individuals who understand when the group's needs or the individual's needs take precedence, and decide to act upon that understanding would be more successful than a group that didn't? What is the definition of free will other than deciding whether or not to act upon a perceived want or need?
306 posted on 05/21/2002 6:45:45 AM PDT by Junior
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To: Kevin Curry
I am a Christian. But I also believe that such concepts as morality and free will exist external to God.
307 posted on 05/21/2002 6:50:31 AM PDT by Junior
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To: Wm Bach
They are [great] company for a rainy weekend.
308 posted on 05/21/2002 6:51:09 AM PDT by Wm Bach
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To: Kevin Curry
But Marxism and atheism go together like tea and biscuits.

Didn't Jesus and his Apostles practice a form of communism, holding all property in common, divesting themselves of most of their worldly possessions? Didn't Jesus preach against the accumulation of wealth in this life? One could make the claim that Jesus preached communism -- indeed an entire communist movement in Latin America was based upon just this supposition.

309 posted on 05/21/2002 6:55:46 AM PDT by Junior
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To: Kevin Curry
And I ask his deenders again, why do you mourn? Of what possible evolutonary value is there in mourning?

Like any other ceremony, mourning exists to cement the group together. Mourning is not for the dead but for the living. The survivors of the group understand that each individual is important enough to the group as a whole to merit such a waste of resources; this in turn strengthens the ties of the individual to the group and increases the chances of the group's survival.

310 posted on 05/21/2002 7:01:12 AM PDT by Junior
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To: PatrickHenry
Slime-free zone.
311 posted on 05/21/2002 7:05:36 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: Junior
Didn't Jesus and his Apostles practice a form of communism, holding all property in common,

No.

Mat 26:6 Now when Jesus was in Bethany, in the house of Simon the leper,

Mat 26:7 There came unto him a woman having an alabaster box of very precious ointment, and poured it on his head, as he sat [at meat].

Mat 26:8 But when his disciples saw [it], they had indignation, saying, To what purpose [is] this waste?

Mat 26:9 For this ointment might have been sold for much, and given to the poor.

Mat 26:10 When Jesus understood [it], he said unto them, Why trouble ye the woman? for she hath wrought a good work upon me.

Mat 26:11 For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always.

Mat 26:12 For in that she hath poured this ointment on my body, she did [it] for my burial.

Mat 26:13 Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached in the whole world, [there] shall also this, that this woman hath done, be told for a memorial of her.


312 posted on 05/21/2002 7:13:07 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: My2Cents
Now he KNOWS the truth.....May he find mercy and peace.

What truth? That there is an Allah? That he'll be reincarnated? Pray tell, what truth?

313 posted on 05/21/2002 7:14:52 AM PDT by JediGirl
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To: Junior
I am a Christian. But I also believe that such concepts as morality and free will exist external to God.

Morality exists apart from God?

314 posted on 05/21/2002 7:16:03 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: JediGirl
Pray tell, what truth?

The truth you have rejected.

315 posted on 05/21/2002 7:17:52 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: codebreaker
'The Flames of eternal hell await the esteemed Dr. Gould. (If he did not ask the lord for forgiveness on his death bed for his sins)

And his reincarnation as a pile of dung awaits since he was not Buddist, no?

316 posted on 05/21/2002 7:20:22 AM PDT by JediGirl
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To: AndrewC
The truth you have rejected.

Wouldn't the Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, et. al say that it is their truth I have rejected as well. Is their "truth" more or less "truthful" than yours? Why? Do they not provide equal "grounds" for believing? Faith, faith, faith!

317 posted on 05/21/2002 7:22:01 AM PDT by JediGirl
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To: Junior
I am a Christian. But I also believe that such concepts as morality and free will exist external to God.

There is even scriptural authority for your view. I don't know any other way to explain Abraham's dispute with God over the destruction of Sodom & Gomorrah.

318 posted on 05/21/2002 7:22:36 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: AndrewC
Morality exists apart from God?

Do I hear an echo?

319 posted on 05/21/2002 7:23:05 AM PDT by JediGirl
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To: PatrickHenry
If 'hate filled' is pointing out the truth of Professors Goulds endeavors, then yes all Christians must be hate mongers.
320 posted on 05/21/2002 7:33:35 AM PDT by codebreaker
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