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Bush out to beef up presidency
The Detroit News/Drudge Report ^
| 05.20.02
| Bill Straub / Scripps Howard News Service
Posted on 05/20/2002 10:36:24 AM PDT by callisto
Edited on 05/07/2004 7:08:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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Critics claim office is more potent now than at any time in recent history.
WASHINGTON -- It's not a bad job considering it comes with a rent-free mansion and door-to-door limousine service, but President Bush maintains that the position he holds as the leader of the free world should come with an additional perk -- power.
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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: presidentbush; presidentialpower
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To: Tabitha Soren
Your statement is untrue. He has defunded the UN abortion group (as far as the US goes), the Justice department has supported the Ohio partial-birth abortion law, and he has spoken about pro-life issues many times.
If a bill for partial birth abortion hasn't yet been introduced, I suggest you call your congressman and Senators, and work for a Republican Senate so that we are sure we can get the bill to the floor.
To: Scholastic
Honest people usually scare folks like you.
To: Tabitha Soren
People have explained to you HUNDREDS of times why abortion cannot be outlawed by executive order. Do you never tire of making a fool out of yourself?
To: Tabitha Soren
"The FACT of the matter is that Bush ran as a PRO-LIFE candidate, but he hasn't done ANYTHING to protect the lives of millions of unborn children." Bush could merely enforce existing OSHA regulations [his job, by the way] and put abortion clinics out of business. He won't. His family has been in the population control game for decades, and they're not going to quit now. So, Tabitha, don't blow a gasket. Go back to work and make money so that Dubya can give it to Planned Parenthood, and Marie Stopes International, and AVSC International, and Pathfinder International, and Johns Hopkins, and various other long-time Bush family allies who help thin the human herd.
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posted on
05/20/2002 11:36:14 AM PDT
by
toenail
To: Miss Marple
I see that the brownies, brigadeers and the "Joannie One Notes" are hard at work, or is it whine on this thread today.
To: Scholastic
Bush scares me. You are easily frightened. You wouldn't have a predisposed agenda, would you?
To: callisto
WITH the exception of Ronald Reagan's presidency, the Executive branch's influence has been continuously on the wane ever since Watergate. Nixon's mishandling and paranoia essentially gave more power to the press and the Congress--power the forefathers never intended. Every president since has looked anemic. They're almost "junior" partners,
not co-equals to the Congress and press.
"Executive Privilege" was abused by Nixon and Clinton, and threw more fuel onto the anti-Presidential fire. So what do we get when Bush asserts his rightful authority? We get a whiny press and Congress, blasting him for not "getting along" with everyone. Congress and the press seem to think they alone are the determining factors of fairness and legitimacy. Trouble for them is this: the Constitution calls for three equal branches of Federal government.
I appreciate Bush standing strong for an Executive Branch not subject to the whims of the New York Times or a complaining Congress.
To: stainlessbanner;billbears;sheltonmac;shuckmaster
Due to the unconstitutional actions of the President that issued executive order #1 (issued April 15, 1861), the Executive has taken over the government. The legislative branch cannot control a rogue President (not as long as the military is subservient), and that same President refused to comply with judicial decisions. Without the states to act as a check on a despotic tyrant there is nothing left to protect the people. Add to that a population of "sheeple" with only a few scattered individuals that have knowledge of the "truth" (or that even care), things will only get worse.
Nothing new here folks, nothing to see. Move along.
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05/20/2002 11:42:27 AM PDT
by
4CJ
To: toenail
How do you know this isn't being done? All you fringe group people do is spew your mantra that he hasn't done anything, when in fact he has.
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To: Redleg Duke
They have to find a thread which supports their theory that Bush, the weak Rino and some-time socialist, is also a strong person willing to take away their rights.
Sometimes I think that these folks must have their bodies contorted into pretzels, because they work SO HARD to prove that Bush is eeeeevil.
To: Tabitha Soren
TOO BAD. GET BUSY AND WRITE CONGRESS!!!!!
To: Tabitha Soren
"President Bush, it is time to sign an executive order banning ALL abortions. Make it a crime with a mandatory death sentence."Pro Life?
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05/20/2002 12:09:30 PM PDT
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MJY1288
To: Tabitha Soren
You must be one of those people who just have to have it their way 100% or nothing else counts, huh?
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posted on
05/20/2002 12:11:57 PM PDT
by
callisto
To: Miss Marple
My statements on this thread are not just directed at Bush. They concern the unconstitutional powers exercised by the executive branch, regardless of who inhabits it.
My concern over the power of the executive was shared by many here during the Clinton administration. As you may recall, a popular saying here was "Stroke of the pen, law of the land", in reference to Clinton's abuse of executive orders. Now that "Their man" is in office, many FReeper's memories seem to suffer, and whatever the executive does is A-OK (that is if it is to their liking).
When the Democrats eventually retake the presidency, suddenly it will again be fashionable here to complain about abuses of excessive executive powers. But the same lack of memory will be present as Republicans will forget just who gave the executive those powers to abuse. With a strait face, they'll say it's all the Democrats fault. Just watch.
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05/20/2002 12:15:21 PM PDT
by
freeeee
To: freeeee
My preference is that executive orders be restricted to reversing previous EO's. As you will note, I commented that the abortion question should not, and cannot, be solved by an EO.
The only other EO use that I would condone is one done in a national emergency for security reasons.
On the other hand, I do understand the temptation when one is faced with a Daschle-ized Senate.
To: Miss Marple
"How do you know this isn't being done? All you fringe group people do is spew your mantra that he hasn't done anything, when in fact he has." He's given Planned Parenthood, the largest chain of abortionists, ~$100 million of taxpayer funds, ensuring that they have a profitable year. That's what he's done. Them's the facts. You fringe cult of personality yea-sayers can ignore the facts, but it doesn't make 'em go away.
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05/20/2002 12:20:58 PM PDT
by
toenail
To: toenail
Was this funding attached to another important bill? Give me the context of your accusation.
And why do you not give credit for the things he has done?
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To: Miss Marple
Regular ol' Title X appropriations, Miss Marple. Wouldn't it truly be nice if "pro-life" Bush quit making pro-life conservatives fight against our own money?
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05/20/2002 12:44:07 PM PDT
by
toenail
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